On Mon, Jul 08, 2019 at 12:24:47PM +0300, Vadim Penzin wrote:
> On 7/8/19 12:04 PM, Antoine Jacoutot wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 08, 2019 at 11:35:29AM +0300, Vadim Penzin wrote:
> > > This is exactly how I solved the problem.  About an hour lost in wondering
> > > what can be wrong with otherwise perfectly functioning setup.
> > > 
> > > Do you (I liked that royal `we'!) expect the user to read READMEs of every
> > > package that Firefox et al. depend on directly or indirectly?
> > 
> > No but if you want to print using cups, I expect you to read at least the 
> > cups
> > README:
> 
> I have done my bit by telling the package manager that I want Firefox *and*
> CUPS.  It should have worked.
> 
> > $ grep -i gtk /usr/local/share/doc/pkg-readmes/cups
> > To be able to use CUPS printers from GTK+ applications, the gtk+2-cups,
> > gtk+3-cups and/or gtk+4-cups package need to be installed.
> > 
> > > The economy of ~150K of storage does not justify lost time.  I can build a
> > > complete operating system from source, however I do prefer using packages
> > > --- exactly for this reason: not dealing with ridiculous stuff like that.
> > 
> > "The economy of ~150K" ; you're only looking at the direct dependencies 
> > here.
> 
> Take a look at Firefox dependencies, then add Thunderbird, then Gimp, and
> then other programs.  *Anyone* installing a full-fledged desktop system
> should have another 150K on the drive. Most (if not all) of indirect
> dependencies of gtk+[23]-cups will be pulled anyway.
> 
> Storage can be purchased, it is cheap.  Time is not.
> 
> > You just don't want to read docs.
> 
> That is a too-far-fetched personal conclusion.  I do not want to be forced
> into reading documentation in cases like that.  I suppose that you had the
> pleasure of configuring remote printers in a corporate environment (`Open...
> what do you want to print from?'), when IT personnel cannot even tell you
> addresses of printers, let alone authentication and queue parameters.
> Printing is hard *enough* (for absolutely non-technical reasons).
> 
> > But don't complain.
> 
> It is called user experience.

*inexperience

-- 
Antoine

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