On Sun, 2011-02-20 at 18:01 -0800, derek wrote: > > 1) Sysadmins often fail with buildout, since they lack enough Python > > experience. Buildout gives you really bad experience when encountering > > errors etc. It is generally being hated by non-developers. true. buildout gives not very clear error messages, when something goes wrong.
> I don't think it is "hated" - but you want to have a developer set up > your buildout, first. Sysadmins can handle appending stuff to an > existing buildout. > > However, this is precisely the point here - the plone4_buildout > template IS out of date. If you install from the standard installer, > you GET a buildout-based install - that a number of developers have > put a lot of effort into getting right. A much more reliable buildout > than one built from scratch with paster. from what i've seen, the buildout.cfg file is OK with plone4_buildout. one thing could be improved, namely that the default plone version should be 4.0-latest instead of 4.0.1. why i'm asking is, i'm in a team, writing a developer tutorial for linuxmagazin.de. and paster is generally a good start. best,,, ,,,johannes raggam > > 2) Buildout sets password and stores it as plaintext > > > > Maybe we can change the message to say "If you are not a developer, don't do > > this?" > > I'm not sure what the point is, or what the connection between those > two statements is. I don't think the installer or paster do this any > differently. -- johannes raggam / thet python plone zope development http://johannes.raggam.co.at/ mailto:[email protected] http://bluedynamics.com/ _______________________________________________ Product-Developers mailing list [email protected] https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/product-developers
