OK let's negotiate with Bin Laden. Get him out of his cave --- Leland Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There is no winner in war, only losers, The formula > to which you > ascribe would leave the whole world much like the > middle east; a pile of > rubble with people like you and I, if we survived, > shivering in the > darkness, loneliness, without family or friend, > homeless, hopeless, and > powerless. This is the reality of war; no glory, no > majesty, no honor; > only death and destruction. > > We need to work towards peace, negotiate treaties, > mediate problems > through a strong UN. War should not be an option > because war is > certainly is not a solution. > > Regards, > > LelandJ > > > Michael Madigan wrote: > > >Bullshit, Imperial Japan hasn't given us a problem > >since Hiroshima and in fact is one of our strongest > >allies. Nazi Germany hasn't given us problems > since > >Dresden. > > > >Destroy the enemy, don't just fight to a stalemate. > > > >--- Leland Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > >>When will we learn that war, violence, death, > >>destruction, and even > >>annihilation of entire countries, or races of > >>people, will not make a > >>difference in bring safety and security to the > >>American people. > >>Violence, fear, and horror, once released, takes > on > >>a life of their own. > >> Violence is self perpetuating. Violence breads > >>more violence. Only > >>understanding, respect, diplomacy and true caring > >>matter in bring us > >>closer to a solution of living in a non-violent > >>world in peace and > >>harmony, one with another. > >> > >>Regards, > >> > >>LelandJ > >> > >> > >>Hal Kaplan wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>-----Original Message----- > >>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > >>> > >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > >> > >> > >>>Behalf Of Leland Jackson > >>>Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 13:04 > >>>To: ProFox Email List > >>>Subject: Re: [OT] Detainee Abuse Charges Feared > >>> > >>>The rules of war have evolved over time as > humanity > >>> > >>> > >>has moved towards > >> > >> > >>>enlightenment. Back in the middle ages wars > might > >>> > >>> > >>evolve one castle > >> > >> > >>>against another castle; kind of like two > miniature > >>> > >>> > >>kingdoms that had > >> > >> > >>>declared war. All members of each opposing > castle, > >>> > >>> > >>were considered > >> > >> > >>>enemies and subject to the same set of rules of > >>> > >>> > >>war. This meant that > >> > >> > >>>even the maids and stable boys were pawns of war, > >>> > >>> > >>even if they never > >> > >> > >>>engaged in any actual combat, and if captured > they > >>> > >>> > >>were subject to the > >> > >> > >>>same harsh treatment as the warriors, including > >>> > >>> > >>execution by poling or > >> > >> > >>>other means, including torture to death. There > was > >>> > >>> > >>no concept of > >> > >> > >>>non-combatants. > >>> > >>>Over time rules of war evolved where > non-combatants > >>> > >>> > >>were not considered > >> > >> > >>>as enemies, and only the armys of each opposing > >>> > >>> > >>side meet on the > >> > >> > >>>battlefield of war. Later the laws of war were > >>> > >>> > >>refined to standardize > >> > >> > >>>treatment of combatants that had been captured, > so > >>> > >>> > >>that the enemy > >> > >> > >>>combatants would be treated in a manner like any > >>> > >>> > >>the warriors would want > >> > >> > >>>to be treated if they became captive. > >>> > >>>Some day humanity will evolve to a place where > war > >>> > >>> > >>will be obsolete, but > >> > >> > >>>for now I would not recommend any reversing of > the > >>> > >>> > >>rules of war back to > >> > >> > >>>a more primitive time in the past, even if it got > >>> > >>> > >>some high political > >> > >> > >>>office holders off the hook. > >>> > >>>Regards, > >>> > >>>LelandJ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>=========================================================== > >> > === message truncated === _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
