Purchasing through Dell outlet you choose pre-configured systems and I think
these 2 offered the best performance and value at that time. I think one had
SBS2008 with it and the other no OS, which is what I was looking for. The
T710 has some extras that offer little value to me like a triple redundant
power supply.  I am fine with the redundant power supply offered by the
T610.  I would not say a T710 is more powerful, perhaps more expandable in
terms of # of drives and memory slots.   

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of James E Harvey
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 10:58 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: new server advice

May I ask why you elected to purchase two different models?  My impression
is the T710 is a bit more powerful than the T610?

James E Harvey
Corresponding Officer/M.I.S.
Hanover Shoe Farms, Inc.
www.hanoverpa.com
[email protected]
717-637-8931
fax: 717-637-6766
cell: 717-887-2565

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Patrick Bibro
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 10:40 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: new server advice

We recently purchased a T610 and a T710 from Dell outlet (if you are not set
on a exact configuration you can save a bunch).  Were running MS Small
business server which provides licenses for both servers.  We have been
happy with both.  One think to note, the T710 is larger (deeper) than it
looks online.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of James E Harvey
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 8:19 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: new server advice

We've gotten a couple quotes for a new server to replace the two older boxes
we now have. I thought we could combine the two old HP servers into one
using VMware to virtualize the software.

One VM would be for Terminal Services and Docuware (our document imaging
software), the other would be for file/print share to handle all our
business applications, written in VFP of course.

One vendor mentioned a concern that using virtualization does cause
performance issues, and I'm worried that using VM would put us back a step
in that area?

Here are the specs for the two Dells.  I'm considering looking into HP,
which is what we have now.

Both servers will be running Win Server 2008R2


Dell T610 specs:
16GB Mem
Single Intel Xeon E5620 2.4 Ghz Processor
(5) 146GB 15K RPM SCSI Hotplug hard drives, Raid 5

Dell T710 specs:
12 GB Mem
(2) Intel Xeon Proc
(6) 300 GB 10K RPM


Some of my thoughts on this project:

We're scanning most our documents now, so we'd like to plan for enough HD
for the next three years.
Don't want to implement something that is going to be of lessor performance
that what we have now.  
We have about 25 users and performance is good now.

Main Server duties:
Active Directory
File/Print share (for all our business applications written in VFP) Terminal
Services (only a few users use this) Docuware (document imaging software)


Does using VM make sense for our purpose, or is it overkill.

Any general thoughts, ideas, and or advice appreciated.



James E Harvey
Corresponding Officer/M.I.S.
Hanover Shoe Farms, Inc.
www.hanoverpa.com
[email protected]
717-637-8931
fax: 717-637-6766
cell: 717-887-2565



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