On 04/30/2013 12:13 PM, Ken Dibble wrote:


I know when an account goes over quota, when a user informs me his account isn't working, and I check his quota status, and see its over limit. I then ask the user to clean up his emails to free up disk space, or in some situations, I up that users quota. Some accounts are set to unlimited emails.

Do you know exactly the account(s) causing the problem?

Yes I do, though many users really have trouble following the simple directions I provide on how to clean up their boxes. I try to get them to do it but there is a persistent percentage who will mess it up. And if they're using multiple accounts on Thunderbird (which happens if they work part-time for more than one department), they will also sometimes do it for the wrong account. *sigh*

So sometimes I just go into the webmail and clean it myself, and if there's a persistent problem with one account I will increase the quota.

Last December, a few people who correspond with us unleashed viruses on their machines and/or had their Yahoo email accounts hacked (Yahoo email really, really, really sucks), and suddenly the daily influx of spam messages across all accounts in my domain went from about 400 to about 4000, and the influx of malware went from near zero to a couple dozen. Since then over-quota situations have increased significantly. It's one thing if a user can't *receive* email for a day or two until I can get around to dealing with it. It's another if that user can't *send* email when the mailbox is full due to the email provider's insane method of verifying users. That's what prompted this whole thread.

So I'm giving serious thought to using another SMTP address. My email hosting provider is not the same as my connectivity provider; the connectivity provider may have an SMTP server I can use, so I'm looking into that.

SMTP is the protocol, (eg "Simple Mail Transfer Protocol"), and the email address is the username, followed by a "@", followed by the domain name. The outgoing SMTP server is the server that delivers emails going out from the email client and the SMTP incoming server is the server that has all the email accounts, (eg inbox and other folders). In my situation the SMTP incoming and outgoing servers are one and the same, but they can be completely different computers with different IPs.

I'm not sure having a separate server to deliver emails would solve your problem. if an email was sent by a user, whose account was over quota, to be delivered by a separate outgoing server, any reply from a recipient would fail, due to quota limits, and the user whose account was over quota might not be notified of the problem. LOL

From what I've gather from reading the threads, you're currently running on an ISP mail server that services accounts under multiple domains, (eg a single mail server servicing multiple domains), and you can administer your own domain with the HTML interface provided by your ISP. You might consider setting up another domain with your ISP devoted strictly for email services.

Regards,

LelandJ


Thanks.

Ken Dibble
www.stic-cil.org


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