Thanks Ted, I appreciate your comments, they make sense, and I can see the logic.
Jim Harvey Spring Grove, PA cell 717-887-2565 -----Original Message----- From: ProFox [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ted Roche Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 4:09 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: newbie consultant biling question Jim: Congratulations on your retirement! I am also a bicycle fan, but I don't find it reasonable to bill my clients for time that isn't spent building their applications. Sure, the value of our product is based on the care and thought we put into it, and not the number of keystrokes, and it should be priced that way, but you reflect that in your hourly rate, and not in tracking the seconds spent thinking about an app. The *best* system design I *EVER* did (and it was magnificent, if I do say so myself) came to me in a dream. Much as I'd like to, I can't in good conscience, charge the client for my time spent sleeping. But the amount of time documenting, implementing and refining that design is billable. When I get stuck on a programming task, as often happens between 3 and 4 in the afternoon, I punch off the clock and walk the dog. When I return, I usually have the problem solved. That's what we're paid for, solving problems. But that time gets billed to the dog, not the client. On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Jim Harvey <[email protected]> wrote: > > Now that I'm retired, and doing work for them as a consultant > (independent contractor), billing by the hour, I was wondering how > does one charge for the time they are "thinking" about a project. > > -- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/003901cf5d9e$1ff79950$5fe6cbf0$@[email protected] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.

