You're wasting your time, Graham. Some people on this list would rather surrender than fight. They find a moral equivalence between Americans and Islamofascists.
Self-loathing is never a good thing. --- Graham Dobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm curious: do you experience similar feelings of > revulsion when an > American proposes nuking Iran? > > - > > I suppose we could ignore Iran if it was just > another authoritarian regime > oppressing it's own people. But the fact is they > are arming the Taliban, > ,Shia insurgents in Iraq and Hizbullah in Lebanon > while trying to build a > nuclear bomb and calling for wiping Israel off the > map of the middle east , > any of which makes them a justifiable candidate for > vilification by > civilized people everywhere. > > As for feelings of revulsion, the images of > beheadings from Iraq have been > deeply disturbing, people talking about nuclear > strikes is somehow more > abstract and less immediate. > > There is savagery going on everywhere: executions of > teenage boys while the > police stand idle in Haiti a year or so ago, they > were playing football, > told to lie flat on the ground then summarily > executed, the unspeakable > brutality of Sierra Leone, massacre and carnage in > Darfur etc. > > And yes we are guilty of it too. The massacre of > the young recruits of the > Islamic courts in Somalia earlier this year was > savage and extreme. The > Islamic courts were a benign influence on the failed > waste land of Somalia > and much more humane than the gangster clans acting > on behalf of the CIA in > the horn of Africa. The west has most certainly got > it wrong in places. > > The US army in Iraq is not known for its politeness. > > The quiet shocked voices of the mothers of Iraq and > Gaza should remind us > however that there is beauty and intelligence and > goodness among the > ordinary people who have suffered so much in all of > this. > > But global terror is an evil that has to be > confronted and the radical > islamists are the major agents of that terror. > Defeating them will require > terrible things to be done in our name. Where does > civilization stand in > all of this? Same place it's always been. Soaked > in blood. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Post Messages to: [email protected] > Subscription Maintenance: > http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox > OT-free version of this list: > http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech > Searchable Archive: > http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox > This message: > http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, > are the opinions of the author, and do not > constitute legal or medical advice. This statement > is added to the messages for those lawyers who are > too stupid to see the obvious. > 2008 Presidential Campaign Gear <http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike/2772083> Thoroughbred Horse Racing Group <http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/mikes_horse_racing/> _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
