Pete wrote:

Socialism collapsed? Which socialism? There is socialism all over, China is 
highly socialized and so is most of Europe. When the rich start to eat the 
poor people's dinner socialism is the only remedy.

Actually, the solution is for the suits (and maybe the former employees) from 
the food stores, hardware stores, etc. to beat the snot out of, or suing the 
pants off, the suit from the widget factory until he understands that there is 
enough for everyone IF no one gets too greedy.  We have to stop treating these 
guys has having an honorable profession!  The problem we have is no shame 
anymore in screwing over your neighbors for your benefit.  Giving and getting 
value is no longer the idea, but beating the system is honored.

The whole thing comes back to a lack of integrity which is perceived by many to 
be an old fashioned value.

Larry Miller

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