As an aside, I do plan to collect a "gratuity" from clients I deploy ZipGenius to on a Go-Forward basis, then donate said gratuity to the fine folks at ZipGenius. So although they offer the app for free, I do feel they ought to receive some reward for their efforts. And for me the cost will be nothing, as there are initial license, installation and configuration fees I normally collect (not for Dave Smith's company, though <g>!) for my applications that will now cover that gratuity amount (I am thinking $20/client).
Fair is fair... Gil -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gil Hale Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 2:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] WinZip now shuts off > So I don't consider buying WinZip with XP to be silly. Until I found ZipGenius I totally agreed. Now I partially agree, but without malice as I do like WinZip - a lot. It is an excellent Zip application. With the various compression options I needed, like a CLI to allow me to perfom automation tasks, the ability to create a self-extracting .exe, & and to be able to compress a file with true encryption protection, I found WinZip to be an excellent investment. But, once I saw that ZipGenius now offers these same capabilities on a No Charge basis, well, let's just say I am going to be migrating to that app on a Go-Forward basis. ZipGenius also has, like WinZip, the ability to use RightClick context menus within File Explorer to perform its various tasks, including adding encryption and building a Self-Extracting .exe file. Very nicely designed app, IMHO. If WinZip Pro license included the Self-Extraction module at no additional charge, and the license was under $20 per PC, I may have just stayed with WinZip. But it is my clients who are paying for the solutions I provide, and in my target market "free" is still too expensive for them <g>. The free market has spoken to me, loud and clear. Gil -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rick Schummer Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 12:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] WinZip now shuts off >>Paying for something already built into your OS is even sillier.<< In principle I agree David. If the OS has the functionality I need I use it. but as is the case with many things in the OS, the functionality with respect to compressed files is not as strong as WinZip. I can literally right-click in PowerDesk (I really don't intentionally use Windows Explorer unless something is really wrong) and can have a ZIP file with two clicks with the ZIP file name the same as the folder or original file. I can extract quickly to a most recently used folder list. Windows does not do this with compressed folders. Heck, I cannot even unzip the file to a specific location. WinZip is even superior in functionality to PowerDesk's built in ZIP functionality. So I don't consider buying WinZip with XP to be silly. Rick White Light Computing, Inc. www.whitelightcomputing.com www.swfox.net www.rickschummer.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Smith Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 11:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] WinZip now shuts off Buy it, or use the significantly better WinRAR, which is free and can be set up to handle ZIP files. Or, just used the 'compressed file' context menu item within XP and Vista, which reads and writes ZIP files all day and comes with your OS. Paying for something when better, free alternatives are available is silly. Paying for something already built into your OS is even sillier. David Smith Systems Administrator Doan Family of Dealerships (585) 352-6600 ext.1730 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Schummer Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 5:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] WinZip now shuts off >> It's the most popular precisely because it's a good product and people can use it for free. Now that they can't, people who don't want to pay for such a basic utility will find one of the many free alternatives and switch to that.<< This is where I disagree Ed. People are using it, will continue to use it, and are not looking for alternatives. "Basic" is relative in this case. I see a ZIP utility as extremely necessary to operate in the computing world, and thus it is not basic. Required is a way better description. They already like WinZip as the best thing and won't bother looking around. They are getting the older version (or continuing to use the older version) and violate the licensing agreement 10 times a day. Period. But obviously from past discussions you don't see this as cheating or stealing so I won't go down this road again. Cheapskates not paying $30 for simple and required utility are stupid. Anyone who can afford US$400 for a computer can afford US$30 for a critical utility. If you want free, go get a freebie. If you want WinZip, pay for it. Rick White Light Computing, Inc. www.whitelightcomputing.com www.swfox.net www.rickschummer.com [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
