> So I don't consider buying WinZip with XP to be silly.

Until I found ZipGenius I totally agreed.  Now I partially agree, but
without malice as I do like WinZip - a lot.  It is an excellent Zip
application.  With the various compression options I needed, like a CLI to
allow me to perfom automation tasks, the ability to create a self-extracting
.exe, & and to be able to compress a file with true encryption protection, I
found WinZip to be an excellent investment.

But, once I saw that ZipGenius now offers these same capabilities on a No
Charge basis, well, let's just say I am going to be migrating to that app on
a Go-Forward basis.  ZipGenius also has, like WinZip, the ability to use
RightClick context menus within File Explorer to perform its various tasks,
including adding encryption and building a Self-Extracting .exe file.  Very
nicely designed app, IMHO.  If WinZip Pro license included the
Self-Extraction module at no additional charge, and the license was under
$20 per PC, I may have just stayed with WinZip.  But it is my clients who
are paying for the solutions I provide, and in my target market "free" is
still too expensive for them <g>.  The free market has spoken to me, loud
and clear.

Gil


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Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 12:22 PM
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>>Paying for something already built into your OS is even sillier.<<

In principle I agree David. If the OS has the functionality I need I use it.
but as is the case with
many things in the OS, the functionality with respect to compressed files is
not as strong as
WinZip. I can literally right-click in PowerDesk (I really don't
intentionally use Windows Explorer
unless something is really wrong) and can have a ZIP file with two clicks
with the ZIP file name the
same as the folder or original file. I can extract quickly to a most
recently used folder list.
Windows does not do this with compressed folders. Heck, I cannot even unzip
the file to a specific
location. WinZip is even superior in functionality to PowerDesk's built in
ZIP functionality. So I
don't consider buying WinZip with XP to be silly.

Rick
White Light Computing, Inc.

www.whitelightcomputing.com
www.swfox.net
www.rickschummer.com


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Behalf Of David Smith
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 11:19 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [NF] WinZip now shuts off

Buy it, or use the significantly better WinRAR, which is free and can be set
up to handle ZIP files. Or, just used the 'compressed file' context menu
item within XP and Vista, which reads and writes ZIP files all day and comes
with your OS. Paying for something when better, free alternatives are
available is silly. Paying for something already built into your OS is even
sillier.

David Smith
Systems Administrator
Doan Family of Dealerships
(585) 352-6600 ext.1730
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Rick Schummer
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 5:47 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [NF] WinZip now shuts off

>> It's the most popular precisely because it's a good product and
people can use it for free. Now that they can't, people who don't want to
pay for such a basic utility will find one of the many free alternatives and
switch to that.<<

This is where I disagree Ed. People are using it, will continue to use it,
and are not looking for alternatives. "Basic" is relative in this case. I
see a ZIP utility as extremely necessary to operate in the computing world,
and thus it is not basic. Required is a way better description. They already
like WinZip as the best thing and won't bother looking around. They are
getting the older version (or continuing to use the older version) and
violate the licensing agreement 10 times a day.
Period. But obviously from past discussions you don't see this as cheating
or stealing so I won't go down this road again.

Cheapskates not paying $30 for simple and required utility are stupid.
Anyone who can afford US$400 for a computer can afford US$30 for a critical
utility. If you want free, go get a freebie. If you want WinZip, pay for it.

Rick
White Light Computing, Inc.

www.whitelightcomputing.com
www.swfox.net
www.rickschummer.com






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