On Mar 14, 2008, at 12:46 AM, Rick Schummer wrote:
> You may doubt all you want Ed, that is your choice. I would not
> expect you to benefit from a Fox
> resource like this Fox-oriented magazine, but others might.
Please. There will not be any magic information there that cannot be
found elsewhere. The issue is supporting a business with whom you have
a fundamental difference of philosophy. When FoxTalk went to sleaze
marketing, I stopped buying it. It had nothing to do with Fox; I still
got FPA, after all.
> I am sure you are making this direct
> observation from actually reading the old version to make such a
> broad assumption such as this. I
> personally think the UT is the center of the negative energy in the
> Fox Universe, yet I found the
> information in the old UT Magazine to be quite good.
And imagine if you and others had taken a stand against this negative
energy instead of actively supporting it. The sources of the "good
information" would have moved on to another, less negative forum, just
as the FoxTalk authors did when that mag went down the crapper.
Information wasn't lost; just the losers who ruined FoxTalk.
> Some very bright people write for this magazine
> and the content was worth the time I spent reading it. Can't ask for
> much more. I have not read
> every word of every issue and might even have missed many issues
> completely, but I don't ever recall
> reading anything that resembled the stereotypical reputation the UT
> has made for itself over the
> years.
I cannot comment on that, as I don't patronize UT.
> Heck, I hang out here in the center of the anti-Microsoft Fox
> Universe because I learn something by
> listening to the answers and opinions of smart people.
Wow, what a concept: allowing people to express their opinions
without a heavy hand that bans people who don't agree with the guy
running it.
And don't you find it odd that those who can be so pro-Fox can be so
anti-Microsoft. Says a lot about how Microsoft has affected the Fox
community.
> That does not mean I would consider a
> resource such as the ProFox archive list to be worthless because a
> few people take cheap shots at
> the Evil Empire, or drop "Dabo-can" answers to a VFP-specific
> question every few messages.
I guess you don't see the value of the free exchange of ideas versus
top-down control. I also find it odd that you don't acknowledge the
much more prevalent attitude of Mucrosoft Über Alles: those who assume
that the Microsoft Way is the Only Way To Go. IMO, and that of most of
the people on this list, it is the variety of opinions that make it
possible to make good decisions, and an environment in which differing
attitudes are discouraged is very unhealthy.
-- Ed Leafe
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