On Apr 29, 2008, at 1:49 PM, Ed Leafe wrote:

>> Image is what I am talking about. The public face that they put on
>> what is "cool." Thug == Cool.
>
>       You are confusing image with actions. Of course the image is cool -
> that's why it's popular. Duh!

No -- I certainly am not. They actively promoted thuggery as cool.  
What they actually do to punish players for it is irrelevant. We are  
talking culture here, not facts. (Just like in politics -- it is all  
about what people think is right. Absolutely not about what *is* right.)



>
>> OBTW, no, that is not the same thing as black culture. That was a
>> cheap shot at Michael. You usually debate much better.
>
>       I think that his comment that hockey players are not thugs explains
> it all.

No, it doesn't. Pulling out the racist card is a cheap shot, free and  
clear. No comparison whatsoever.

Ken





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