On Apr 29, 2008, at 2:07 PM, Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh wrote:
>> You are confusing image with actions. Of course the image is cool -
>> that's why it's popular. Duh!
>
> No -- I certainly am not. They actively promoted thuggery as cool.
OK, I'm going to have to call bullshit on this.
Please show me one shred of evidence that the NBA actively promoted
thuggery, which you've just agreed is distinct from any specific "look".
> What they actually do to punish players for it is irrelevant.
Oh, I disagree. Especially when you just got through stating that
they actively promoted this behavior.
> We are talking culture here, not facts. (Just like in politics --
> it is all
> about what people think is right. Absolutely not about what *is*
> right.)
So because some people are afraid of the street image, that makes it
wrong?
>> I think that his comment that hockey players are not thugs explains
>> it all.
>
> No, it doesn't. Pulling out the racist card is a cheap shot, free and
> clear. No comparison whatsoever.
Again, I disagree. I asked him to explain his avowed hatred of the
NBA. To quote: "Or is it that you don't like the "street" image? You
know, that nervous white boy reaction to encountering black culture."
That isn't "racist", or a card of any kind. I asked him to clarify if
he was reacting to the look, or if he was basing that on actual events.
-- Ed Leafe
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