Bob Calco wrote:
>> Guys!...
>> There is no such thing as free trade. If you have a market and a mean
>> of
>> change (i.e. dollars) then you have "rules", those rules are enforced
>> by
>> the state. It follows then that the "market" must function within a
>> frame provided by the state, ergo there is no "free" market, the market
>> must work within the laws (if you don't want laws then there is no
>> "property" and anyone may take your house by force).
>>     
>
> Retardo:
>
> Of course to have a market you need a system, which is composed of the
> elements you describe:
>
> - Well defined boundaries;
> - A single, circulating medium of exchange;
> - A single government to enforce the rules.
>
> The difference between a "free" one and a non-free one is the legal scheme
> of ownership based on institutionally enforced contract law between
> individuals, vs the one based on command and control enforced by nothing
> more than the monopoly of force of government held by the ruly elite.
>   

NAFTA is an example of an agreement between Canada, the USA, and Mexico, 
for example, to remove trade barriers like tariffs, thus promoting 
competition  Its essentially creates a single economy within the three 
economically affiliated countries who have joined.

The world is moving in a "free market" direction, so some day there will 
be a true global economy based on free trade.

http://www.ustr.gov/Trade_Agreements/Regional/NAFTA/Section_Index.html
or
http://tinyurl.com/2pfloo

Regards,

LelandJ

>   
>> Now it happens
>> some
>> of those laws legislate over taxes (just as they legislate over private
>> property) and others over the re-distribution of those taxes.
>>     
>
> It doesn't just "happen" -- people set up their rules by deliberate human
> action. Free systems allow the people to change both the rulers and the
> rules in rational ways; the others live and die by force.
>
>   
>> So you see, there is no qualitative difference between USA and Denmark
>> in that aspect, it's just a matter of where you put the line. 
>>     
>
> Maybe you should stop snorting your own lines long enough to understand why
> your comparison is apples to twizzlers. (Apples to oranges would at least be
> comparing two fruit...)
>
>   
>> They are
>> happier, healthier and far more educated, so their system is obviously
>> better.
>>     
>
> Someone should tell John McCain's "friends" to the south; perhaps they'll
> illegally migrate there by the boat load instead.
>
> - Bob
>
>   
>>
>>
>>     
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