Emojis: double-plus un-good. On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 3:37 PM, John Baker <bakerj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Unicode fonts are like that old joke about standards. There are so many to > choose from. > > My expectations for Unicode started dipping when emojii's were added. > Apparently just in time to make the emojii "heart" the most popular word in > 2014. > > cheers > > On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Devon McCormick <devon...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > I tried numerous different fonts on J802 and found the dice characters > > displaying only with "Deja Vu Sans", "Deja Vu Sans Condensed", "Deja Vu > > Sans Mono", and "Unifont". I'm surprised that Courier and "Courier New" > > let me down. This is too bad because Unifont is the only fixed-width > font > > that shows the dice and I don't really like the way it looks. > > > > I'm also a little surprised that unicode does not give us very similar > > results across different systems. > > > > Interestingly, my jconsole under emacs seems to have no problem with the > > dice or the chess pieces which, as Pascal pointed out, could be rendered > > in proper starting position like this: > > 8 8$ u: 9800+(|.(8$23),20 22 21 18 19 21 22 20),(32$_9768),(8$17),14 > 16 > > 15 13 12 15 16 14 > > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 5:12 PM, robert therriault < > bobtherria...@mac.com> > > wrote: > > > > > They work for me on j803 jhs with courier as the font. > > > > > > u: 9857 > > > ⚁ > > > > > > Cheers, bob > > > > > > On Dec 31, 2014, at 12:51 PM, Björn Helgason <gos...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > I use plain jqt on Android > > > > On 31 Dec 2014 20:12, "Skip Cave" <s...@caveconsulting.com> wrote: > > > > > > > >> The unicode characters 9856-9861 (hex 2680-2685) don't have the dice > > > >> characters on any of the fonts I tried in jqt64-j803 on my Win 8.1 > > > machine. > > > >> Any idea what fonts might have he dice characters? > > > >> > > > >> Skip > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 6:24 AM, Björn Helgason <gos...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> It all depends on what font is used. > > > >>> > > > >>> Many/most only have subsets of the pictures/fonts/bitmaps/signs for > > the > > > >>> unicode places. > > > >>> > > > >>> http://unicode-table.com/en/ > > > >>> > > > >>> press a sign and it will give a popup with the unicode number/name > > > >>> On 31 Dec 2014 11:25, "Linda Alvord" <lindaalv...@verizon.net> > > wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>>> u: 9856+i. 6 results in 6 empty boxes? I had no trouble getting > > chess > > > >>>> pieces. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> I tried (jqt font size 16) > > > >>>> > > > >>>> u:200 50$i.10000 > > > >>>> > > > >>>> and don't see any dice. Any ideas? Theree are many symbols but > also > > > >> many > > > >>>> boxes. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Linda > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> -----Original Message----- > > > >>>> From: programming-boun...@forums.jsoftware.com [mailto: > > > >>>> programming-boun...@forums.jsoftware.com] On Behalf Of Björn > > Helgason > > > >>>> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:40 PM > > > >>>> To: Programming forum > > > >>>> Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] Repeated rolling dice > > > >>>> > > > >>>> To display the dice: > > > >>>> > > > >>>> u: 9856+i. 6 > > > >>>> ⚀⚁⚂⚃⚄⚅ > > > >>>> > > > >>>> u: 9855+5 1 4 1 5 2 2 6 2 4 5 6 1 3 6 2 1 4 4 2 > ⚄⚀⚃⚀⚄⚁⚁⚅⚁⚃⚄⚅⚀⚂⚅⚁⚀⚃⚃⚁ > > > On > > > >>> 29 > > > >>>> Dec 2014 11:15, "Linda Alvord" <lindaalv...@verizon.net> wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> After reading this thread from September, I couldn't resist an > > > >>>>> "elementary school" version, shown twice below: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> f=: 13 :'>:?y$6' > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> ]A=:f 20 NB. Original rolls > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> 5 1 4 1 5 2 2 6 2 4 5 6 1 3 6 2 1 4 4 2 > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> }:1,6~:A > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 0 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> ]B=:(}:1,6~:A)<;.1 A NB. Boxes show > extra > > > >>> rolls > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> --T-T-T-T-T-T-T---T-T-T---T-T---T-T-T-T-┐ > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> │5│1│4│1│5│2│2│6 2│4│5│6 1│3│6 2│1│4│4│2│ > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> L-+-+-+-+-+-+-+---+-+-+---+-+---+-+-+-+-- > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> ]C=:+/"1 >B NB. Value of rolls > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> 5 1 4 1 5 2 2 8 4 5 7 3 8 1 4 4 2 > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> $C NB. Usable answers > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> 17 > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> f=: 13 :'>:?y$6' > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> ]A=:f 20 NB. Original rolls > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> 1 2 6 6 6 5 3 5 1 6 6 3 1 4 2 6 4 1 2 2 > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> }:1,6~:A > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> 1 1 1 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 0 0 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> ]B=:(}:1,6~:A)<;.1 A NB. Boxes show > extra > > > >>> rolls > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> --T-T-------T-T-T-T-----T-T-T-T---T-T-T-┐ > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> │1│2│6 6 6 5│3│5│1│6 6 3│1│4│2│6 4│1│2│2│ > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> L-+-+-------+-+-+-+-----+-+-+-+---+-+-+-- > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> ]C=:+/"1 >B NB. Value of rolls > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> 1 2 23 3 5 1 15 1 4 2 10 1 2 2 > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> $C NB. Usable answers > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> 14 > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Linda > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> -----Original Message----- > > > >>>>> From: programming-boun...@forums.jsoftware.com > > > >>>>> [mailto:programming-boun...@forums.jsoftware.com] On Behalf Of > > Raul > > > >>>>> Miller > > > >>>>> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 11:50 PM > > > >>>>> To: Programming forum > > > >>>>> Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] Repeated rolling dice > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> In addition to Pascal's comments, "0 can sometimes run into an > > issue > > > >>>>> with word formation rules (when the argument to the right begins > > > >> with a > > > >>>> number). > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Thanks, > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> -- > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Raul > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Johann Hibschman < > > > >>>>> <mailto:jhibsch...@gmail.com> jhibsch...@gmail.com> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> Thanks, that's helpful, although the tacit version of "bulk" is > a > > > >>>>>> bit > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> too much for me to parse. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> I imagine factor of 2 helps because it gets you over the > expected > > > >>>>>> 6r5 > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> rolls per "game", assuming I did that recurrence right > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> (e=(5r6*1)+1r6*(1+e)). > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> I do have some lingering style questions though: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> 1. It looks to me like David Lambert's solution used both (&>) > and > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> (">) to force a verb to apply to the atoms, which I would write > > > >> ("0). > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> Are there any particular reasons to prefer one over the other? > > ("0) > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> may require a ([) to avoid merging with a follow-up literal, > (&>) > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> seems a little like exploiting a side-effect of (>), and (">) > > could > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> just as easily be ("+) or any other 0 0 0 verb. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> 2. Is there any difference between (bind) and (@:)? They look to > > me > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> like they would be identical. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> Thanks, > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> Johann > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Raul Miller < > > > >>>>> <mailto:rauldmil...@gmail.com> rauldmil...@gmail.com> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> That is very close to what I came up with, for the case where > we > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> want > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> only > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> a single value from our result: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> d6=:1 + ? bind 6 > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> repd6=: [:+/(,d6)^:(6={:)@d6 > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Here's a variation on Roger Hui's approach, for the case where > we > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> want N values from our result: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> d6s=: 1 + [: ? #&6 > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> bulk=:{.#&0(],~(+/;.1~1:}:@,0~:6&|)@(],d6s@[))^:( > > > >>>>> <mailto:0=6&;|@%7b:@%7b.)%5e:_~> 0=6&|@{:@{.)^:_~] > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Example use: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> bulk 20 > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> 5 5 5 4 3 3 2 3 3 9 1 4 16 3 3 1 3 17 3 4 > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> This would probably be much clearer if implemented explicitly > > > >>>>>>> rather > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> than tacitly, and probably would be more efficient also. So: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> bulkd6s=:3 :0 > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> r=. i. 0 > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> while. y >: #r do. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> r=. r, d6s y > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> mask=. }: 1, 0~:6|r > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> r=. mask +/;.1 r > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> end. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> y{.r > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> ) > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> But statistically speaking, this is still not as efficient as > it > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> could > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> be. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> I think we'd do better with: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> bulkd6=:3 :0 > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> r=. i. 0 > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> while. y >: #r do. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> r=. r, d6s 2*y > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> mask=. }: 1, 0~:6|r > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> r=. mask +/;.1 r > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> end. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> y{.r > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> ) > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Do you see why this tends to be more efficient? > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Thanks, > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> -- > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Raul > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 11:50 AM, 'Pascal Jasmin' via > Programming > > > >>>>>>> < > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> <mailto:programm...@jsoftware.com> programm...@jsoftware.com> > > > >>>> wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> this works > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> (, >:@?@6:)^:((0=#) +. 6={:)^:_ i.0 > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> ([: +/ (, >:@?@6:)^:((0=#) +. 6={:)^:_) i.0 > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> 11 > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> From: Johann Hibschman < <mailto:jhibsch...@gmail.com> > > > >>>>> jhibsch...@gmail.com> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> To: Programming forum < <mailto:programm...@jsoftware.com> > > > >>>>> programm...@jsoftware.com> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Cc: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 9:06 AM > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Subject: [Jprogramming] Repeated rolling dice > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Hi all, > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> For fun, I've been running some statistics for a game with an > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> unusual rule for rolling dice: if a 6 is rolled, roll again > and > > > >>>>>>>> add > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> the result, repeating on any subsequent 6s. I wanted to > > > >> implement > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> this in J, collecting all the individual rolls (rather than > just > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> the sum.) > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> It seems like there should be a more clever and elegant way to > > > >> do > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> this, but this is what I have: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> NB. Simple roll. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> roll0 =: >:@? > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> NB. This seems to work, but it's not very clever. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> roll =: 3 : 0 > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> r =. >:?y > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> if. r=y do. r=. r,(roll y) end. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> r > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> ) > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> NB. Attempt at iterating via power. Fails because repeats NB. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> signal termination. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> roll0^:(6&=)^:(<_) 6 > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> NB. Attempt at iterating via agenda. Not even close yet. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> NB. ]`(]+$:) @. (=&6) NB. where to stick in the roll? > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> This gives what I expect: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> roll"0 ] 10#6 > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> 6 1 0 > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> 3 0 0 > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> 3 0 0 > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> 2 0 0 > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> 5 0 0 > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> 2 0 0 > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> 6 6 2 > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> 2 0 0 > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> 1 0 0 > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> 6 3 0 > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> But is there a better way to do this? Also, are there any > known > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> issues with the RNG? I've not gathered enough statistics to > > > >> prove > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> it, but the results look clumpier (more identical values in a > > > >>>>>>>> row) > > > >>>>> than > > > >>>>> I expect. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Now, I know that's a common cognitive bias, so it may just be > > > >> me, > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> but is there a discussion of the quality of the RNG somewhere? > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Thanks, > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Johann > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >>>>>>>> -- > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> --- For information about J forums see > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> <http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm> > > > >>>>> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >>>>>>>> -- > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> --- For information about J forums see > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> <http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm> > > > >>>>> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >>>>>>> -- > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> -- For information about J forums see > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>> <http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm> > > > >>>>> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >>>>>> -- > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> For information about J forums see > > > >>>>>> <http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> For information about J forums see > > > >>>>> <http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm> > > > >>>>> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >>>>> For information about J forums see > > > >> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > >>>> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >>>> For information about J forums see > > > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >>>> For information about J forums see > > > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > >>> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >>> For information about J forums see > > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > >>> > > > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >> For information about J forums see > > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > For information about J forums see > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Devon McCormick, CFA > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > > > > -- > John D. 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