I think the differences between JHS and jqt are so pervasive that it does
not necessarily make sense to have forced similarities. If the menu actions
were the same, the next step would be to have the page be the same and this
is not possible. A concern for JHS was to have menu items as short and
simple as possible so that they'd fit on small screens.

On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 2:27 PM, Don Guinn <[email protected]> wrote:

> Perhaps, where practical, make JHS similar to JQT. Such as making the words
> used in drop-down menus the same when they serve the same function. Why
> should the file access drop-down in JHS be called "ide"? Why not call it
> "Files" and use the same words as used in the files drop-down in JQT for
> corresponding functions? Reduces the learning curve for a JQT user to learn
> JHS.
>
> On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 9:38 AM, Eric Iverson <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Linda,
> >
> > Let's first make sure that the menu ide>file (no s) is working properly.
> >
> > In the jijx page, click menu ide>file and that should take you to a page
> > that is a file explorer. That page should have a menu item called action
> > and then a row of folder names.
> >
> > Try clicking on various folder names to see how the page changes.
> >
> > Click on the temp folder name and you should then see a list of files in
> > your temp folder. If you see a file there with a name that does not start
> > with a digitl, double click it to open it in a jijx editing page.
> >
> > The use of a file should add its name to the list of recent files. Go to
> > the jijx page and do menu ide>jfiles. This will give you a list of files
> > you have recently accessed in JHS. This list is maintained in the browser
> > so various actions can clear the list. This is why you are seeing a blank
> > page.
> >
> > The blank page if there are no recents is confusing. I should perhaps
> > change it to say something like 'no recent files', or as IBM used to put
> in
> > its manuals 'this page intentionally left blank'.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 10:57 AM, 'Pascal Jasmin' via Programming <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > ide> file ... action>new file
> > >
> > > or just ide> jijs
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Linda A Alvord <[email protected]>
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 10:44 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] JHS update
> > >
> > > Pascal,  In jqt you open new temp and then save.
> > >
> > > In JHS, how do you get to a place where you can define a script and
> save
> > > it?
> > >
> > > Linda
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Programming [mailto:[email protected]] On
> > > Behalf Of 'Pascal Jasmin' via Programming
> > > Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 9:20 AM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] JHS update
> > >
> > > seems like you want to save an ijs (script) file?  You need to open one
> > > first.  The ijx file is like the console in jqt.
> > >
> > >
> > > Eric has mentioned a few times now that "file" menu is different than
> > > "files" menu.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Linda A Alvord <[email protected]>
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 8:41 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] JHS update
> > >
> > > Also, it seems that there were more choices before. There ar:
> > >
> > > Ide   debug   tools  help
> > >
> > > Weren't there  'action' which included 'save' ?
> > >
> > > Linda
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Programming [mailto:[email protected]] On
> > > Behalf Of Eric Iverson
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 9, 2017 9:28 PM
> > > To: Programming forum
> > > Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] JHS update
> > >
> > > I don't understand your problem report. There has been no change in JHS
> > > other than were they appear in the menu.
> > >
> > > ide>files (note the s) is a list of files you have used recently.
> > >
> > > ide>file (no s) is a file browser. You can navigate over your folders
> > > ide>and
> > > see all your files.
> > >
> > > Please confirm that menu ide>file is working properly.
> > >
> > > Also, please report the result of the expression in JHS:
> > >    jpath'~temp'
> > >
> > > And then run the same expression in jqt and report that.
> > >
> > > It sounds like perhaps you multiple installations of J and that is the
> > > source of the confusion.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 9:07 PM, Linda A Alvord <
> [email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > In the past, I could access all ijs files in temp when I was
> connected
> > > > to jhs in my browser.  All worked with no problem.  How can I do that
> > > > now as '"file" has a new meaning.  Otherwise  all older files must be
> > > > retyped befo before they can be used and modified.  Also once they
> > > > were modivied in jhs they would be corrected when accessed in jqt.
> > > >
> > > > Linda
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Programming [mailto:[email protected]]
> On
> > > > Behalf Of Eric Iverson
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 9, 2017 2:46 PM
> > > > To: Programming forum
> > > > Subject: [Jprogramming] JHS update
> > > >
> > > > JHS update available. JHS now automatically browses to the jijx page.
> > > > This is probably more convenient than the current behavior for most
> > > > people most of the time.
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