> It is more or less like stopping drinking or smoking. > It is also why it is so difficult for fat people to go down in weight. > You have to eat something at least once in awhile. > Step wise is not the way to go. > Aim for a goal and go for it. > I decided many months ago to go over to J7 and since then I hardly open J6.
J602 is the horse that pulls my cart. Not the horse I ride for therapy. To switch horses at this stage in my pet project is like switching to 3D halfway through shooting a movie. You end up in wonderland. Why j602 pulls my cart so well boils down to jwd. My professional life has been gui since the 80s and I've never known such a minimalist interface. It's the kalashnikov of the gui battlefront: nothing to go wrong. And when it does you can fix it with a screwdriver. I can develop an app on the Mac and it works first time, and keeps on working, and I never have to touch it again. And it runs on Windows... 2000, XP _and_ Vista... and keeps running when VB and V-whatever have packed up and gone awol. (Yes - I have the case-studies.) I shall be very, Very sorry to lose that capability when the time comes to relegate j602 to the basement of my hard-drive. Does anyone know another app development system that can do that -- and you can start using it effectively in an evening? (...the gui, I mean, not the language :-) And doesn't cost $000s or is only good for screen-savers? Please tell me: I collect them. It really pains me to be pushing jwd way beyond its provenance -- on a less-used platform -- just when everyone who knows it better than I do is preoccupied with putting the finishing touches on a shiny new replacement. And - yes, I have tried j701 (both jhs and gtk) and - yes, it's fab. It will serve my needs most satisfyingly in 2012. I can hear people thinking. Why develop on the Mac and port to Windows? Because nuts-and-bolts don't trip you up when you're in full creative flight. That's what the developers of Excel (formerly Masterplan) knew well enough. Likewise Word, Photoshop, Illustrator... the list goes on. I absolutely and utterly loathe Windows. Plus its performing poodle: VB. Which is ungrateful of me, considering it paid my wages for the last 10 years of my working life. But it's sick individuals, not healthy ones, that make doctors fat. Sorry... this should have gone out on the rant forum. 2011/1/26 Björn Helgason <[email protected]>: > It is always a question when making a change if you take a giant step or > many small steps. > Most people can not do many gradual steps. > It is more or less like stopping drinking or smoking. > It is also why it is so difficult for fat people to go down in weight. > You have to eat something at least once in awhile. > Step wise is not the way to go. > Aim for a goal and go for it. > I decided many months ago to go over to J7 and since then I hardly open J6. > If I do I mostly do it to remind me of something I used to do and something > really specific. > It was a bit hard in the beginning and mostly because J7 was moving as well. > Some weeks ago J7 more or less stopped moving and increasing stuff became > available in J7. > I see nothing wrong in keeping J6 and it is really excellent. > I am pretty sure I would not be able to do a gradual move over. > For me it is either or. > > 2011/1/26 Ian Clark <[email protected]> > >> Thanks, Bill. What I suspected. >> >> Jgtk in j701 is the final destination for the stuff I'm doing. But to >> make progress I don't want to lift both feet from the ground at once. >> >> Ian >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 5:49 AM, bill lam <[email protected]> wrote: >> > I guess this is mac specific that moves the title bar to the top of >> > desktop but wd does not handle it properly. jgtk in j701 should work. >> > >> > Срд, 26 Янв 2011, Ian Clark писал(а): >> >> How can I persuade wd to display a window without the titlebar? >> >> >> >> I notice that wd 'pc formid [style]' has a range of styles that look >> >> as if one of them ought to do the trick. None of them do anything on >> >> the Mac. 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