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________________________________ From: item abu <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 7:06 AM Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Arctic Muslims' (Pinpin itu nggak punya otak buat mikir -sambungan.) Ngasih zakat itu antara lain unt biaya berjihad ngerampok dan ngebantai di jalan auloh. Bejad ga tuh? >________________________________ > From: Musik hari Ini <[email protected]> >To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 4:23 PM >Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Arctic Muslims' (Pinpin itu nggak punya otak buat >mikir -sambungan.) > > > >Oh begitu ya >jadi budaya kasih Zakat juga bejad? > >budaya larang mabuk,larang zinah,larang dusta itu juga bejad? >larang berhianat,jaga kebersihan juga bejad? >larang berjudi juga bejad? >wah gua kagak ngerti dah cara mikir elu. > >________________________________ >From: item abu <[email protected]> >To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 5:12 AM >Subject: Re: [proletar] Re: Arctic Muslims' (Pinpin itu nggak punya otak buat >mikir -sambungan.) > > > >Hehehe... begitu syariat iblis berkuasa, maka ga ada lagi orang Minang, krn >semua kebudayaan Minang akan dihabisi diganti dgn budaya Islam yg bejad. > >>________________________________ >> From: pinpinyuliansyah <[email protected]> >>To: [email protected] >>Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 7:09 PM >>Subject: [proletar] Re: Arctic Muslims' (Pinpin itu nggak punya otak buat >>mikir -sambungan.) >> >> >> >>Orang minang tetap bisa menjadi orang minang meskipun beragama Islam. Minang >>bahkan identik dengan Islam. Jadi kalau ada minang yang jadi nge londo kayak >>gini, ya itu brarti sudah tercabut akar budayanya. >> >>Paradox Plik ... >> >>Elo ngomong bahwa Islam hanya untuk Arab. Sementara elo sendiri gagal tetep >>jadi orang minang saat elo hidup di holland. elo malah lebih londo dari londo. >> >>Istri saya papa nya orang belanda. Belanda Asli. Muslim, shalat, puasa. Dia >>bangga jadi orang Indonesia dan meninggal dengan mengucapkan dua kalimah >>syahadat. >> >>Nah elo ? >>Mampus dengan mengucapkan nonok bebek haramjadah. >> >>kasihan. >> >>--- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@...> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Dan seluruh khurafah najis al-Mushaf itu juga ditulis orang Arab primitif >>> untuk penduduk Makkah dan daerah sekitarnya yang berbahasa Arab, jadi bukan >>> untuk berbagai suku bangsa di Indonesia yang masing-masing punya bahasanya >>> sendiri-sendiri. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Makanya dia masih juga tidak mengerti bahwa aturan puasa di al-Musaf itu >>> > dibikin orang Arab primitif untuk penduduk Makkah dan daerah sekitarnya >>> > yang berbahasa Arab dan yang tidak tahu bumi itu bunder... >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: >>> > > >>> > > Hehehe... perintah auloh dilanggar oleh orang yg "berpikir". >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >________________________________ >>> > > > From: pinpinyuliansyah <pinpinyuliansyah@> >>> > > >To: [email protected] >>> > > >Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 3:47 PM >>> > > >Subject: [proletar] Re: Arctic Muslims' unique dilemma in Ramadan: The >>> > > >Sun never sets here >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >Pernah denger nddak tem bahwa SAAT INI di dunia ini adzan bersahutan >>> > > >tiada henti ? Saat adzan subuh berhenti berkumandang di daerah anu, >>> > > >maka adzan subuh mulai berkumandang di daerah yang lain seiring >>> > > >berjalannya matahari ... >>> > > > >>> > > >Muslim di kutub tentusaja nddak perlu nunggu sampai matahari >>> > > >tenggelam, kalau itu yang dilakukan, maka bertentangan dengan klausul >>> > > >bahwa Islam diturunkan hanya bagi orang yang berpikir. >>> > > > >>> > > >Maksutnya bukan untuk orang yang males berpikir kayak elo tem ... >>> > > > >>> > > >Gimana game online nya rame ? >>> > > > >>> > > >Kasihan. >>> > > > >>> > > >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: >>> > > >> >>> > > >> Orang Islam di kutub ini kepaksa hrs make "akal sehat" spy ga mati >>> > > >> waktu puasa di musim panas. >>> > > >> >>> > > >> Padahal auloh jelas2 ngasih perintah spy puasa dr fajar sampe >>> > > >> matahari terbenam. Kalo orang hrs berpikir dan make "akal sehat" spy >>> > > >> ga mati, berarti perintah auloh itu adalah perintah ga masuk akal >>> > > >> sehat dan konyol, bukan? >>> > > >> >>> > > >> Siapa yg sebenarnya goblok? auloh yg ngasih perintah konyol, atau >>> > > >> orang Islam yg ga sadar akan kegoblokan auloh itu shg biarpun jelas2 >>> > > >> mereka ngebangkang perintah auloh, tp mereka msh ngejilat pantat >>> > > >> auloh? >>> > > >> >>> > > >> Satu2nya mukjizat yg ada di Islam itu adalah begitu banyaknya orang >>> > > >> goblok yg msh mau ngejilat pantat auloh. >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> http://www.emirates247.com/arctic-muslims-unique-dilemma-in-ramadan-the-sun-never-sets-here-2012-07-24-1.468650 >>> > > >> >>> > > >> Arctic Muslims' unique dilemma in Ramadan: The Sun never sets here >>> > > >> By AP >>> > > >> Published Tuesday, July 24, 2012 >>> > > >> >>> > > >> How do you observe dawn-to-dusk fasting when there is neither dawn >>> > > >> nor dusk? >>> > > >> >>> > > >> It's a question facing a small but growing number of Muslims >>> > > >> celebrating the holy month of Ramadan on the northern tip of Europe, >>> > > >> where the the sun barely dips below the horizon at this time of year. >>> > > >> >>> > > >> In Rovaniemi, a northern Finland town that straddles the Arctic >>> > > >> Circle at 66 degrees north, the sun rises around 3:20 a.m. and sets >>> > > >> about 11:20pm. That means Muslims who observe Ramadan could be >>> > > >> required >>> > > >> to go without food or drink for 20 hours. >>> > > >> >>> > > >> In a few years, Ramadan will begin even closer to the summer >>> > > >> solstice in late June, when the sun doesn't set at all. >>> > > >> >>> > > >> "We have to use common sense," said Mahmoud Said, 27, who came to >>> > > >> Finnish Lapland from Kenya three years ago. >>> > > >> >>> > > >> To Said, that means following the fasting hours of the nearest >>> > > >> Muslim country: Turkey. >>> > > >> >>> > > >> "It involves 14 or 15 hours of fasting which is okay, it's not bad," >>> > > >> said Said, who works for a non-governmental organization helping >>> > > >> immigrants settle in the area. He estimates there are a little over >>> > > >> 100 >>> > > >> Muslims in Rovaniemi, mainly from Iraq, Somalia and Afghanistan. >>> > > >> >>> > > >> There is no unanimity on how to deal with the issue, which is >>> > > >> becoming more pressing as more Muslim immigrants find their way to >>> > > >> sparsely inhabited areas near the Arctic. >>> > > >> >>> > > >> In Alaska, the Islamic Community Center of Anchorage, "after >>> > > >> consultation with scholars," advises Muslims to follow the fasting >>> > > >> hours of Makkah, Islam's holiest city. >>> > > >> >>> > > >> The Dublin-based European Council for Fatwa and Research, however, >>> > > >> said Muslims need to follow the local sunrise and sunset, even up >>> > > >> north. >>> > > >> >>> > > >> "The debate on how to do this in the north has been on going on for >>> > > >> a few years," said Omar Mustafa, the chairman of the Islamic >>> > > >> Association >>> > > >> of Sweden. "We fast according to the sun. As long as it is possible >>> > > >> to >>> > > >> tell dusk from dawn. This applies to 90 per cent of Sweden's >>> > > >> Muslims." >>> > > >> >>> > > >> The few Muslims who live so far north that they are awash in 24-hour >>> > > >> daylight should follow the daylight hours the closest city in Sweden >>> > > >> where you can tell dawn from dusk, he said, noting that it's >>> > > >> permitted >>> > > >> to break the fast for health reasons. >>> > > >> >>> > > >> Kaltouma Abakar and her extended family of nine relatives came to >>> > > >> Finland from Sudan's Darfur region four years ago. She opts to >>> > > >> observe >>> > > >> the local Lapland sunrise and sunset times before breaking the fast >>> > > >> in >>> > > >> her downtown Rovaniemi apartment. >>> > > >> >>> > > >> Kaltouma explains that she gets up early and works until the >>> > > >> afternoon, then starts cooking the family's iftar meal around 5 p.m. >>> > > >> >>> > > >> "The time of Ramadan fasting is very long, and breaking the fast can >>> > > >> be around 11:30 in the evening. The time you're supposed to eat your >>> > > >> breakfast is 2 o'clock in the morning," the 31-year old said. >>> > > >> >>> > > >> In the kitchen, Kaltouma's two daughters â€" aged 11 and 6 â€" >>> > > >> help >>> > > >> prepare the food. They fry chicken and pastries filled with tuna in >>> > > >> scalding hot oil. A pot of rice simmers on the stove while one girl >>> > > >> kneads cornmeal dough which they'll dip into a chicken broth and eat >>> > > >> with their fingers â€" traditional Sudanese style â€" a few >>> > > >> hours later. >>> > > >> >>> > > >> Apart from the late sunset times, Kaltouma said the lack of "Muslim >>> > > >> food" locally in Rovaniemi can be a challenge. She sometimes has to >>> > > >> wait several days for halal meat and other traditional ingredients >>> > > >> to come >>> > > >> from the larger cities of Oulu, or Helsinki in the south. >>> > > >> >>> > > >> Even though, technically, there is nightfall in Rovaniemi at this >>> > > >> time of year, there is no true darkness. Instead, there's a grey >>> > > >> gloaming with occasional dappled rays of sun reaching over the >>> > > >> northern >>> > > >> horizon, giving the city a mystical quality even in the supposed >>> > > >> dead of night. >>> > > >> >>> > > >> The dates of Ramadan change according to the lunar calendar, moving >>> > > >> back 11 days each year. That means that by 2015 there will be no >>> > > >> sunset >>> > > >> for a month when Ramadan falls closer to midsummer. >>> > > >> >>> > > >> Still, Kaltouma says "there is going to be at least 10 minutes for >>> > > >> us to break the fast." >>> > > >> >>> > > >> She said there is one positive aspect of observing long fasting >>> > > >> hours in the Arctic during Ramadan: the cool temperatures. >>> > > >> >>> > > >> "Unlike Africa, here in Finland you don't get thirsty often. No >>> > > >> matter how long you fast, you don't get the urge for water." >>> > > >> >>> > > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> > > >> >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> > > >>> > >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! 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