Hehehe... orang2 Islam dan anjing2 buduk piaraannya itu ga bisa ngadu argumen, makanya mereka cuma muter2 lidah ngeributin omongan gua yg diplintir2.
Silakan aja, itu cuma nunjukin ketololan mereka. On 2/4/13, rezameutia <[email protected]> wrote: > > Iya, gw percaya omongan lo nyembah2 minta maaf ke anjing kan?! > > Hehehe..... > > > > > > --- In [email protected], itemabu2 wrote: >> >> Orang mau percaya apa ga omongan gua, silakan aja. >> >> Yg penting adalah gua udah ngomong, kalo ada yg ga percaya, itu >> resikonya sendiri, gua udah ga tanggung jawab lagi. >> >> >> >> On 2/4/13, Musik hari Ini wrote: >> > Goyim tolol >> > Kibulan elu kagak laku diPROL >> > >> > jangan ajarin bebek berenang. >> > >> > >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > From: itemabu2 >> > To: [email protected] >> > Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 10:21 PM >> > Subject: Re: [proletar] Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad married >> > Aisha >> > when she was six and had sex with her when she was nine >> > >> > Lu ini tololnya minta ampun, sampe lu ga tau bhw Tabari dll itu kadang >> > ngutip ocehan beberapa orang yg isinya berbeda. >> > >> > Quran bilang halal ngembat anak ingusan. Ga ada tuh di CNN atau MNBC >> > or whatever, cuma ada di Quran. Omong kosong jadinya nurut ocehan lu >> > sendiri, bukan? >> > >> > >> > >> > On 2/4/13, Musik hari Ini wrote: >> >> Goyim tolol >> >> >> >> Menurut Tabari, keempat anak Abu Bakar (termasuk Aisyah) dilahirkan >> >> oleh >> >> istrinya pada zaman Jahiliyah, artinya sebelum 610 M.[3] Apabila >> >> Aisyah >> >> dinikahkan sebelum 620 M, maka ia dinikahkan pada umur >> >> di atas 10 tahun dan hidup sebagai suami-istri dengan Muhammad dalam >> >> umur di atas 13 tahun. Menurut Abd alRahman bin Abi Zannad: "Asmah 10 >> >> tahun lebih tua dari Aisyah."[4] Menurut Ibnu Hajar al-'Asqalani, >> >> Asmah >> >> hidup hingga usia 100 tahun dan meninggal tahun 73 atau 74 >> >> Hijriyah.[5] >> >> Apabila Asmah meninggal dalam usia 100 tahun dan meninggal dalam tahun >> >> 73 atau 74 Hijriyah, maka Asma berumur 27 atau 28 tahun pada waktu >> >> Hijrah, sehingga Aisyah berumur (27 atau 28) - 10 = 17 atau 18 tahun >> >> pada waktu Hijrah. Itu berarti Aisyah mulai hidup berumah tangga >> >> dengan >> >> Muhammad >> >> pada waktu berumur 19 atau 20 tahun. >> >> Sedangkan menurut Sahih Al-Bukhari, Aisyah sendiri mengatakan bahwa >> >> dirinya dinikahi oleh Muhammad ketika berumur 6 (enam) tahun.[6] >> >> Pandangan ini juga berlaku di kalangan umat islam tertentu. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: itemabu2 >> >> To: [email protected] >> >> Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 9:41 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [proletar] Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad married >> >> Aisha >> >> when she was six and had sex with her when she was nine >> >> >> >> Menurut Tabari >> >> >> >> "My mother came to me while I was being swung on a swing between two >> >> branches and got me down. My nurse took over and wiped my face with >> >> some water and started leading me. When I was at the door she stopped >> >> so I could catch my breath. I was brought in while Muhammad was >> >> sitting on a bed in our house. My mother made me sit on his lap. The >> >> other men and women got up and left. The Prophet consummated his >> >> marriage with me in my house when I was nine years old. Neither a >> >> camel nor a sheep was slaughtered on behalf of me." >> >> Al-Tabari, Vol. 9, p. 131 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 2/4/13, Musik hari Ini wrote: >> >>> Goyim tolol >> >>> >> >>> Menurut Tabari, keempat anak Abu Bakar (termasuk Aisyah) dilahirkan >> >>> oleh >> >>> istrinya pada zaman Jahiliyah, artinya sebelum 610 M.[3] Apabila >> >>> Aisyah >> >>> dinikahkan sebelum 620 M, maka ia dinikahkan pada umur >> >>> di atas 10 tahun dan hidup sebagai suami-istri dengan Muhammad dalam >> >>> umur di atas 13 tahun. Menurut Abd alRahman bin Abi Zannad: "Asmah 10 >> >>> tahun >> >>> lebih tua dari Aisyah."[4] Menurut Ibnu Hajar al-'Asqalani, Asmah >> >>> hidup >> >>> hingga usia 100 tahun dan meninggal tahun 73 atau 74 Hijriyah.[5] >> >>> Apabila >> >>> Asmah meninggal dalam usia 100 tahun dan meninggal dalam tahun >> >>> 73 atau 74 Hijriyah, maka Asma berumur 27 atau 28 tahun pada waktu >> >>> Hijrah, >> >>> sehingga Aisyah berumur (27 atau 28) - 10 = 17 atau 18 tahun pada >> >>> waktu >> >>> Hijrah. Itu berarti Aisyah mulai hidup berumah tangga dengan Muhammad >> >>> pada waktu berumur 19 atau 20 tahun. >> >>> Sedangkan menurut Sahih Al-Bukhari, Aisyah sendiri mengatakan bahwa >> >>> dirinya >> >>> dinikahi oleh Muhammad ketika berumur 6 (enam) tahun.[6] Pandangan >> >>> ini >> >>> juga >> >>> berlaku di kalangan umat islam tertentu. >> >>> >> >>> ________________________________ >> >>> From: itemabu2 >> >>> To: [email protected] >> >>> Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 9:31 PM >> >>> Subject: Re: [proletar] Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad married >> >>> Aisha >> >>> when she was six and had sex with her when she was nine >> >>> >> >>> Narrated Aisha: "The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six >> >>> (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith >> >>> bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair >> >>> grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing >> >>> in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to >> >>> her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the >> >>> hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless >> >>> then, and when my breathing became Alright, she took some water and >> >>> rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. >> >>> There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and >> >>> Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and >> >>> they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle >> >>> came >> >>> to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at >> >>> that >> >>> time I was a girl of nine years of age. >> >>> Sahih Bukhari 5:58:234 >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On 2/3/13, Musik hari Ini wrote: >> >>>> Goyim tolol >> >>>> >> >>>> kagak ada di CNN atau msnbc.....referesi dari jahatwatch >> >>>> >> >>>> kebanyakan bohong nya sama kayak elu dkk >> >>>> >> >>>> isinya total fitnahan. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> ________________________________ >> >>>> From: itemabu2 >> >>>> To: proletar >> >>>> Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 5:01 PM >> >>>> Subject: [proletar] Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad married >> >>>> Aisha >> >>>> when >> >>>> she was six and had sex with her when she was nine >> >>>> >> >>>> Ulama Saudi ngeluarin fatwa spy bayi perempuan hrs make jilbab unt >> >>>> ngelindungi bayi tsb dr pemerkosaan oleh orang2 Islam. Ga aneh, krn >> >>>> nabi itu jg doyan anak ingusan dan nabi adalah contoh yg baik unt >> >>>> orang Islam, maka bayi perempuan itu emang hrs dilindungi dr nabi >> >>>> dan >> >>>> orang2 Islam yg soleh pengikut nabi. >> >>>> >> >>>> "Dr. Ahmad Al-Mu'bi: He married her at the age of six, and he >> >>>> consummated the marriage, by having sex with her for the first time, >> >>>> when she was nine. We consider the Prophet Muhammad to be our >> >>>> model." >> >>>> >> >>>> Hehehe... suri tauladan orang Islam itu adalah nabi yg kawin dgn >> >>>> anak >> >>>> 6 thn dan ngembat si anak di usia 9 thn. Islam itu emang agama yg >> >>>> benar, benar2 bejad. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/06/saudi-marriage-officiant-muhammad-married-aisha-when-she-was-six-and-had-sex-with-her-when-she-was-n.html >> >>>> >> >>>> Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad married Aisha when she was six >> >>>> and had sex with her when she was nine >> >>>> >> >>>> Over the years I've gotten a great deal of abuse for telling the >> >>>> truth >> >>>> about Islam and jihad here, but probably more for pointing out that >> >>>> Islamic tradition says that Muhammad married Aisha when she was six >> >>>> and consummated the marriage when she was nine, and that he is >> >>>> exemplary in this for Islamic law, than for anything else. See, to >> >>>> take just one of many examples, here. Of course, the righteous >> >>>> indignation over my alleged misrepresentation of this issue is >> >>>> simply >> >>>> another manifestation of the general deceptive smokescreen that >> >>>> Islamic supremacists deploy in the West. >> >>>> >> >>>> But this MEMRI clip proves the only point I have ever wanted to make >> >>>> about this issue: that Muhammad's example in this has been taken and >> >>>> is still taken as worthy of imitation. >> >>>> >> >>>> "Dr. Ahmad Al-Mub'i, a Saudi Marriage Officiant: It Is Allowed to >> >>>> Marry a Girl at the Age of One, If Sex Is Postponed. The Prophet >> >>>> Muhammad, Whose Model We Follow, Married 'Aisha When She Was Six and >> >>>> Had Sex with Her When She Was Nine," from MEMRITV, June 19 (thanks >> >>>> to >> >>>> all who sent this in): >> >>>> >> >>>> Following are excerpts from an interview with Dr. Ahmad >> >>>> Al-Mu'bi, >> >>>> a Saudi marriage officiant, which aired on LBC TV on June 19, 2008: >> >>>> >> >>>> Dr. Ahmad Al-Mu'bi: Marriage is actually two things: First we >> >>>> are >> >>>> talking about the marriage contract itself. This is one thing, while >> >>>> consummating the marriage – having sex with the wife for the first >> >>>> time – is another thing. There is no minimal age for entering >> >>>> marriage. You can have a marriage contract even with a one-year-old >> >>>> girl, not to mention a girl of nine, seven, or eight. This is merely >> >>>> a >> >>>> contract [indicating] consent. The guardian in such a case must be >> >>>> the >> >>>> father, because the father's opinion is obligatory. Thus, the girl >> >>>> becomes a wife... But is the girl ready for sex or not? What is the >> >>>> appropriate age for having sex for the first time? This varies >> >>>> according to environment and traditions. In Yemen, girls are married >> >>>> off at nine, ten, eleven, eight, or thirteen, while in other >> >>>> countries, they are married off at 16. Some countries have >> >>>> legislated >> >>>> laws forbidding having sex before the girl is eighteen. >> >>>> >> >>>> [...] >> >>>> >> >>>> The Prophet Muhammad is the model we follow. He took 'Aisha to >> >>>> be >> >>>> his wife when she was six, but he had sex with her only when she was >> >>>> nine. >> >>>> >> >>>> Interviewer: When she was six... >> >>>> >> >>>> Dr. Ahmad Al-Mu'bi: He married her at the age of six, and he >> >>>> consummated the marriage, by having sex with her for the first time, >> >>>> when she was nine. We consider the Prophet Muhammad to be our model. >> >>>> >> >>>> Interviewer: My question to you is whether the marriage of a >> >>>> 12-year-old boy with an 11-year-old girl is a logical marriage, >> >>>> which >> >>>> is permitted by Islamic law. >> >>>> >> >>>> Dr. Ahmad Al-Mu'bi: If the guardian is the father... There are >> >>>> two >> >>>> different types of guardianship. If the guardian is the father, and >> >>>> he >> >>>> marries his daughter off to a man of appropriate standing, the >> >>>> marriage is obviously valid. >> >>>> >> >>>> [...] >> >>>> >> >>>> People find themselves in all kinds of circumstances. Take, for >> >>>> example, a man who has two, three, or four daughters. He does not >> >>>> have >> >>>> any wives, but he needs to go on a trip. Isn't it better to marry >> >>>> his >> >>>> daughter to a man, who will protect and sustain her, and when she >> >>>> reaches the proper age, he will have sex with her? 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