Lha..., mosok gw musti serius ngeladenin ngomong orang idiot kayak elo yang nyembah2 minta maaf ke anjing?
Yang bener aja lo. Hehehe.... --- In [email protected], itemabu2 wrote: > > Hehehe... orang2 Islam dan anjing2 buduk piaraannya itu ga bisa ngadu > argumen, makanya mereka cuma muter2 lidah ngeributin omongan gua yg > diplintir2. > > Silakan aja, itu cuma nunjukin ketololan mereka. > > > On 2/4/13, rezameutia wrote: > > > > Iya, gw percaya omongan lo nyembah2 minta maaf ke anjing kan?! > > > > Hehehe..... > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], itemabu2 wrote: > >> > >> Orang mau percaya apa ga omongan gua, silakan aja. > >> > >> Yg penting adalah gua udah ngomong, kalo ada yg ga percaya, itu > >> resikonya sendiri, gua udah ga tanggung jawab lagi. > >> > >> > >> > >> On 2/4/13, Musik hari Ini wrote: > >> > Goyim tolol > >> > Kibulan elu kagak laku diPROL > >> > > >> > jangan ajarin bebek berenang. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ________________________________ > >> > From: itemabu2 > >> > To: [email protected] > >> > Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 10:21 PM > >> > Subject: Re: [proletar] Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad married > >> > Aisha > >> > when she was six and had sex with her when she was nine > >> > > >> > Lu ini tololnya minta ampun, sampe lu ga tau bhw Tabari dll itu kadang > >> > ngutip ocehan beberapa orang yg isinya berbeda. > >> > > >> > Quran bilang halal ngembat anak ingusan. Ga ada tuh di CNN atau MNBC > >> > or whatever, cuma ada di Quran. Omong kosong jadinya nurut ocehan lu > >> > sendiri, bukan? > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On 2/4/13, Musik hari Ini wrote: > >> >> Goyim tolol > >> >> > >> >> Menurut Tabari, keempat anak Abu Bakar (termasuk Aisyah) dilahirkan > >> >> oleh > >> >> istrinya pada zaman Jahiliyah, artinya sebelum 610 M.[3] Apabila > >> >> Aisyah > >> >> dinikahkan sebelum 620 M, maka ia dinikahkan pada umur > >> >> di atas 10 tahun dan hidup sebagai suami-istri dengan Muhammad dalam > >> >> umur di atas 13 tahun. Menurut Abd alRahman bin Abi Zannad: "Asmah 10 > >> >> tahun lebih tua dari Aisyah."[4] Menurut Ibnu Hajar al-'Asqalani, > >> >> Asmah > >> >> hidup hingga usia 100 tahun dan meninggal tahun 73 atau 74 > >> >> Hijriyah.[5] > >> >> Apabila Asmah meninggal dalam usia 100 tahun dan meninggal dalam tahun > >> >> 73 atau 74 Hijriyah, maka Asma berumur 27 atau 28 tahun pada waktu > >> >> Hijrah, sehingga Aisyah berumur (27 atau 28) - 10 = 17 atau 18 tahun > >> >> pada waktu Hijrah. Itu berarti Aisyah mulai hidup berumah tangga > >> >> dengan > >> >> Muhammad > >> >> pada waktu berumur 19 atau 20 tahun. > >> >> Sedangkan menurut Sahih Al-Bukhari, Aisyah sendiri mengatakan bahwa > >> >> dirinya dinikahi oleh Muhammad ketika berumur 6 (enam) tahun.[6] > >> >> Pandangan ini juga berlaku di kalangan umat islam tertentu. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ________________________________ > >> >> From: itemabu2 > >> >> To: [email protected] > >> >> Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 9:41 PM > >> >> Subject: Re: [proletar] Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad married > >> >> Aisha > >> >> when she was six and had sex with her when she was nine > >> >> > >> >> Menurut Tabari > >> >> > >> >> "My mother came to me while I was being swung on a swing between two > >> >> branches and got me down. My nurse took over and wiped my face with > >> >> some water and started leading me. When I was at the door she stopped > >> >> so I could catch my breath. I was brought in while Muhammad was > >> >> sitting on a bed in our house. My mother made me sit on his lap. The > >> >> other men and women got up and left. The Prophet consummated his > >> >> marriage with me in my house when I was nine years old. Neither a > >> >> camel nor a sheep was slaughtered on behalf of me." > >> >> Al-Tabari, Vol. 9, p. 131 > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On 2/4/13, Musik hari Ini wrote: > >> >>> Goyim tolol > >> >>> > >> >>> Menurut Tabari, keempat anak Abu Bakar (termasuk Aisyah) dilahirkan > >> >>> oleh > >> >>> istrinya pada zaman Jahiliyah, artinya sebelum 610 M.[3] Apabila > >> >>> Aisyah > >> >>> dinikahkan sebelum 620 M, maka ia dinikahkan pada umur > >> >>> di atas 10 tahun dan hidup sebagai suami-istri dengan Muhammad dalam > >> >>> umur di atas 13 tahun. Menurut Abd alRahman bin Abi Zannad: "Asmah 10 > >> >>> tahun > >> >>> lebih tua dari Aisyah."[4] Menurut Ibnu Hajar al-'Asqalani, Asmah > >> >>> hidup > >> >>> hingga usia 100 tahun dan meninggal tahun 73 atau 74 Hijriyah.[5] > >> >>> Apabila > >> >>> Asmah meninggal dalam usia 100 tahun dan meninggal dalam tahun > >> >>> 73 atau 74 Hijriyah, maka Asma berumur 27 atau 28 tahun pada waktu > >> >>> Hijrah, > >> >>> sehingga Aisyah berumur (27 atau 28) - 10 = 17 atau 18 tahun pada > >> >>> waktu > >> >>> Hijrah. Itu berarti Aisyah mulai hidup berumah tangga dengan Muhammad > >> >>> pada waktu berumur 19 atau 20 tahun. > >> >>> Sedangkan menurut Sahih Al-Bukhari, Aisyah sendiri mengatakan bahwa > >> >>> dirinya > >> >>> dinikahi oleh Muhammad ketika berumur 6 (enam) tahun.[6] Pandangan > >> >>> ini > >> >>> juga > >> >>> berlaku di kalangan umat islam tertentu. > >> >>> > >> >>> ________________________________ > >> >>> From: itemabu2 > >> >>> To: [email protected] > >> >>> Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 9:31 PM > >> >>> Subject: Re: [proletar] Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad married > >> >>> Aisha > >> >>> when she was six and had sex with her when she was nine > >> >>> > >> >>> Narrated Aisha: "The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six > >> >>> (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith > >> >>> bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair > >> >>> grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing > >> >>> in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to > >> >>> her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the > >> >>> hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless > >> >>> then, and when my breathing became Alright, she took some water and > >> >>> rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. > >> >>> There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and > >> >>> Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and > >> >>> they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle > >> >>> came > >> >>> to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at > >> >>> that > >> >>> time I was a girl of nine years of age. > >> >>> Sahih Bukhari 5:58:234 > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> On 2/3/13, Musik hari Ini wrote: > >> >>>> Goyim tolol > >> >>>> > >> >>>> kagak ada di CNN atau msnbc.....referesi dari jahatwatch > >> >>>> > >> >>>> kebanyakan bohong nya sama kayak elu dkk > >> >>>> > >> >>>> isinya total fitnahan. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> ________________________________ > >> >>>> From: itemabu2 > >> >>>> To: proletar > >> >>>> Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 5:01 PM > >> >>>> Subject: [proletar] Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad married > >> >>>> Aisha > >> >>>> when > >> >>>> she was six and had sex with her when she was nine > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Ulama Saudi ngeluarin fatwa spy bayi perempuan hrs make jilbab unt > >> >>>> ngelindungi bayi tsb dr pemerkosaan oleh orang2 Islam. Ga aneh, krn > >> >>>> nabi itu jg doyan anak ingusan dan nabi adalah contoh yg baik unt > >> >>>> orang Islam, maka bayi perempuan itu emang hrs dilindungi dr nabi > >> >>>> dan > >> >>>> orang2 Islam yg soleh pengikut nabi. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> "Dr. Ahmad Al-Mu'bi: He married her at the age of six, and he > >> >>>> consummated the marriage, by having sex with her for the first time, > >> >>>> when she was nine. We consider the Prophet Muhammad to be our > >> >>>> model." > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Hehehe... suri tauladan orang Islam itu adalah nabi yg kawin dgn > >> >>>> anak > >> >>>> 6 thn dan ngembat si anak di usia 9 thn. Islam itu emang agama yg > >> >>>> benar, benar2 bejad. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/06/saudi-marriage-officiant-muhammad-married-aisha-when-she-was-six-and-had-sex-with-her-when-she-was-n.html > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad married Aisha when she was six > >> >>>> and had sex with her when she was nine > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Over the years I've gotten a great deal of abuse for telling the > >> >>>> truth > >> >>>> about Islam and jihad here, but probably more for pointing out that > >> >>>> Islamic tradition says that Muhammad married Aisha when she was six > >> >>>> and consummated the marriage when she was nine, and that he is > >> >>>> exemplary in this for Islamic law, than for anything else. See, to > >> >>>> take just one of many examples, here. Of course, the righteous > >> >>>> indignation over my alleged misrepresentation of this issue is > >> >>>> simply > >> >>>> another manifestation of the general deceptive smokescreen that > >> >>>> Islamic supremacists deploy in the West. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> But this MEMRI clip proves the only point I have ever wanted to make > >> >>>> about this issue: that Muhammad's example in this has been taken and > >> >>>> is still taken as worthy of imitation. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> "Dr. Ahmad Al-Mub'i, a Saudi Marriage Officiant: It Is Allowed to > >> >>>> Marry a Girl at the Age of One, If Sex Is Postponed. The Prophet > >> >>>> Muhammad, Whose Model We Follow, Married 'Aisha When She Was Six and > >> >>>> Had Sex with Her When She Was Nine," from MEMRITV, June 19 (thanks > >> >>>> to > >> >>>> all who sent this in): > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Following are excerpts from an interview with Dr. Ahmad > >> >>>> Al-Mu'bi, > >> >>>> a Saudi marriage officiant, which aired on LBC TV on June 19, 2008: > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Dr. Ahmad Al-Mu'bi: Marriage is actually two things: First we > >> >>>> are > >> >>>> talking about the marriage contract itself. This is one thing, while > >> >>>> consummating the marriage having sex with the wife for the first > >> >>>> time is another thing. There is no minimal age for entering > >> >>>> marriage. You can have a marriage contract even with a one-year-old > >> >>>> girl, not to mention a girl of nine, seven, or eight. This is merely > >> >>>> a > >> >>>> contract [indicating] consent. The guardian in such a case must be > >> >>>> the > >> >>>> father, because the father's opinion is obligatory. Thus, the girl > >> >>>> becomes a wife... But is the girl ready for sex or not? What is the > >> >>>> appropriate age for having sex for the first time? This varies > >> >>>> according to environment and traditions. In Yemen, girls are married > >> >>>> off at nine, ten, eleven, eight, or thirteen, while in other > >> >>>> countries, they are married off at 16. Some countries have > >> >>>> legislated > >> >>>> laws forbidding having sex before the girl is eighteen. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> [...] > >> >>>> > >> >>>> The Prophet Muhammad is the model we follow. He took 'Aisha to > >> >>>> be > >> >>>> his wife when she was six, but he had sex with her only when she was > >> >>>> nine. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Interviewer: When she was six... > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Dr. Ahmad Al-Mu'bi: He married her at the age of six, and he > >> >>>> consummated the marriage, by having sex with her for the first time, > >> >>>> when she was nine. We consider the Prophet Muhammad to be our model. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Interviewer: My question to you is whether the marriage of a > >> >>>> 12-year-old boy with an 11-year-old girl is a logical marriage, > >> >>>> which > >> >>>> is permitted by Islamic law. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Dr. Ahmad Al-Mu'bi: If the guardian is the father... There are > >> >>>> two > >> >>>> different types of guardianship. If the guardian is the father, and > >> >>>> he > >> >>>> marries his daughter off to a man of appropriate standing, the > >> >>>> marriage is obviously valid. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> [...] > >> >>>> > >> >>>> People find themselves in all kinds of circumstances. Take, for > >> >>>> example, a man who has two, three, or four daughters. He does not > >> >>>> have > >> >>>> any wives, but he needs to go on a trip. Isn't it better to marry > >> >>>> his > >> >>>> daughter to a man, who will protect and sustain her, and when she > >> >>>> reaches the proper age, he will have sex with her? 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