Lu sama idiotnya dgn anjing buduk piaraan lu, si Teddy, yg bilang bhw gua suka orang dirajam krn gua bilang lolongan orang dirajam itu paling indah.
Silakan aja lu terusin pamer keidiotan lu. On 2/4/13, rezameutia <[email protected]> wrote: > Hehehe.... > > Gw udah belajar banyak di milis ini, ternyata ada orang Kristen yang saking > idiotnya sampe nyembah2 minta maaf ke anjing. > > > > > > --- In [email protected], itemabu2 wrote: >> >> Hehehe... sekarang lu udah belajar spy ga ngegoblok2in anjing buduk >> piaraan lu, jadi ada kemajuan jg. >> >> >> >> On 2/4/13, rezameutia wrote: >> > >> > Lha..., mosok gw musti serius ngeladenin ngomong orang idiot kayak elo >> > yang >> > nyembah2 minta maaf ke anjing? >> > >> > Yang bener aja lo. >> > >> > Hehehe.... >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > --- In [email protected], itemabu2 wrote: >> >> >> >> Hehehe... orang2 Islam dan anjing2 buduk piaraannya itu ga bisa ngadu >> >> argumen, makanya mereka cuma muter2 lidah ngeributin omongan gua yg >> >> diplintir2. >> >> >> >> Silakan aja, itu cuma nunjukin ketololan mereka. >> >> >> >> >> >> On 2/4/13, rezameutia wrote: >> >> > >> >> > Iya, gw percaya omongan lo nyembah2 minta maaf ke anjing kan?! >> >> > >> >> > Hehehe..... >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > --- In [email protected], itemabu2 wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Orang mau percaya apa ga omongan gua, silakan aja. >> >> >> >> >> >> Yg penting adalah gua udah ngomong, kalo ada yg ga percaya, itu >> >> >> resikonya sendiri, gua udah ga tanggung jawab lagi. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 2/4/13, Musik hari Ini wrote: >> >> >> > Goyim tolol >> >> >> > Kibulan elu kagak laku diPROL >> >> >> > >> >> >> > jangan ajarin bebek berenang. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > ________________________________ >> >> >> > From: itemabu2 >> >> >> > To: [email protected] >> >> >> > Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 10:21 PM >> >> >> > Subject: Re: [proletar] Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad >> >> >> > married >> >> >> > Aisha >> >> >> > when she was six and had sex with her when she was nine >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Lu ini tololnya minta ampun, sampe lu ga tau bhw Tabari dll itu >> >> >> > kadang >> >> >> > ngutip ocehan beberapa orang yg isinya berbeda. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Quran bilang halal ngembat anak ingusan. Ga ada tuh di CNN atau >> >> >> > MNBC >> >> >> > or whatever, cuma ada di Quran. Omong kosong jadinya nurut ocehan >> >> >> > lu >> >> >> > sendiri, bukan? >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > On 2/4/13, Musik hari Ini wrote: >> >> >> >> Goyim tolol >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Menurut Tabari, keempat anak Abu Bakar (termasuk Aisyah) >> >> >> >> dilahirkan >> >> >> >> oleh >> >> >> >> istrinya pada zaman Jahiliyah, artinya sebelum 610 M.[3] >> >> >> >> Apabila >> >> >> >> Aisyah >> >> >> >> dinikahkan sebelum 620 M, maka ia dinikahkan pada umur >> >> >> >> di atas 10 tahun dan hidup sebagai suami-istri dengan Muhammad >> >> >> >> dalam >> >> >> >> umur di atas 13 tahun. Menurut Abd alRahman bin Abi Zannad: >> >> >> >> "Asmah >> >> >> >> 10 >> >> >> >> tahun lebih tua dari Aisyah."[4] Menurut Ibnu Hajar >> >> >> >> al-'Asqalani, >> >> >> >> Asmah >> >> >> >> hidup hingga usia 100 tahun dan meninggal tahun 73 atau 74 >> >> >> >> Hijriyah.[5] >> >> >> >> Apabila Asmah meninggal dalam usia 100 tahun dan meninggal dalam >> >> >> >> tahun >> >> >> >> 73 atau 74 Hijriyah, maka Asma berumur 27 atau 28 tahun pada >> >> >> >> waktu >> >> >> >> Hijrah, sehingga Aisyah berumur (27 atau 28) - 10 = 17 atau 18 >> >> >> >> tahun >> >> >> >> pada waktu Hijrah. Itu berarti Aisyah mulai hidup berumah tangga >> >> >> >> dengan >> >> >> >> Muhammad >> >> >> >> pada waktu berumur 19 atau 20 tahun. >> >> >> >> Sedangkan menurut Sahih Al-Bukhari, Aisyah sendiri mengatakan >> >> >> >> bahwa >> >> >> >> dirinya dinikahi oleh Muhammad ketika berumur 6 (enam) tahun.[6] >> >> >> >> Pandangan ini juga berlaku di kalangan umat islam tertentu. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> >> >> From: itemabu2 >> >> >> >> To: [email protected] >> >> >> >> Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 9:41 PM >> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [proletar] Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad >> >> >> >> married >> >> >> >> Aisha >> >> >> >> when she was six and had sex with her when she was nine >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Menurut Tabari >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "My mother came to me while I was being swung on a swing between >> >> >> >> two >> >> >> >> branches and got me down. My nurse took over and wiped my face >> >> >> >> with >> >> >> >> some water and started leading me. When I was at the door she >> >> >> >> stopped >> >> >> >> so I could catch my breath. I was brought in while Muhammad was >> >> >> >> sitting on a bed in our house. My mother made me sit on his lap. >> >> >> >> The >> >> >> >> other men and women got up and left. The Prophet consummated his >> >> >> >> marriage with me in my house when I was nine years old. Neither >> >> >> >> a >> >> >> >> camel nor a sheep was slaughtered on behalf of me." >> >> >> >> Al-Tabari, Vol. 9, p. 131 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 2/4/13, Musik hari Ini wrote: >> >> >> >>> Goyim tolol >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> Menurut Tabari, keempat anak Abu Bakar (termasuk Aisyah) >> >> >> >>> dilahirkan >> >> >> >>> oleh >> >> >> >>> istrinya pada zaman Jahiliyah, artinya sebelum 610 M.[3] >> >> >> >>> Apabila >> >> >> >>> Aisyah >> >> >> >>> dinikahkan sebelum 620 M, maka ia dinikahkan pada umur >> >> >> >>> di atas 10 tahun dan hidup sebagai suami-istri dengan Muhammad >> >> >> >>> dalam >> >> >> >>> umur di atas 13 tahun. Menurut Abd alRahman bin Abi Zannad: >> >> >> >>> "Asmah >> >> >> >>> 10 >> >> >> >>> tahun >> >> >> >>> lebih tua dari Aisyah."[4] Menurut Ibnu Hajar al-'Asqalani, >> >> >> >>> Asmah >> >> >> >>> hidup >> >> >> >>> hingga usia 100 tahun dan meninggal tahun 73 atau 74 >> >> >> >>> Hijriyah.[5] >> >> >> >>> Apabila >> >> >> >>> Asmah meninggal dalam usia 100 tahun dan meninggal dalam tahun >> >> >> >>> 73 atau 74 Hijriyah, maka Asma berumur 27 atau 28 tahun pada >> >> >> >>> waktu >> >> >> >>> Hijrah, >> >> >> >>> sehingga Aisyah berumur (27 atau 28) - 10 = 17 atau 18 tahun >> >> >> >>> pada >> >> >> >>> waktu >> >> >> >>> Hijrah. Itu berarti Aisyah mulai hidup berumah tangga dengan >> >> >> >>> Muhammad >> >> >> >>> pada waktu berumur 19 atau 20 tahun. >> >> >> >>> Sedangkan menurut Sahih Al-Bukhari, Aisyah sendiri mengatakan >> >> >> >>> bahwa >> >> >> >>> dirinya >> >> >> >>> dinikahi oleh Muhammad ketika berumur 6 (enam) tahun.[6] >> >> >> >>> Pandangan >> >> >> >>> ini >> >> >> >>> juga >> >> >> >>> berlaku di kalangan umat islam tertentu. >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> ________________________________ >> >> >> >>> From: itemabu2 >> >> >> >>> To: [email protected] >> >> >> >>> Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 9:31 PM >> >> >> >>> Subject: Re: [proletar] Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad >> >> >> >>> married >> >> >> >>> Aisha >> >> >> >>> when she was six and had sex with her when she was nine >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> Narrated Aisha: "The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of >> >> >> >>> six >> >> >> >>> (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of >> >> >> >>> Bani-al-Harith >> >> >> >>> bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my >> >> >> >>> hair >> >> >> >>> grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was >> >> >> >>> playing >> >> >> >>> in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I >> >> >> >>> went >> >> >> >>> to >> >> >> >>> her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by >> >> >> >>> the >> >> >> >>> hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was >> >> >> >>> breathless >> >> >> >>> then, and when my breathing became Alright, she took some water >> >> >> >>> and >> >> >> >>> rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the >> >> >> >>> house. >> >> >> >>> There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best >> >> >> >>> wishes >> >> >> >>> and >> >> >> >>> Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to >> >> >> >>> them >> >> >> >>> and >> >> >> >>> they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's >> >> >> >>> Apostle >> >> >> >>> came >> >> >> >>> to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and >> >> >> >>> at >> >> >> >>> that >> >> >> >>> time I was a girl of nine years of age. >> >> >> >>> Sahih Bukhari 5:58:234 >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> On 2/3/13, Musik hari Ini wrote: >> >> >> >>>> Goyim tolol >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> kagak ada di CNN atau msnbc.....referesi dari jahatwatch >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> kebanyakan bohong nya sama kayak elu dkk >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> isinya total fitnahan. >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> ________________________________ >> >> >> >>>> From: itemabu2 >> >> >> >>>> To: proletar >> >> >> >>>> Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 5:01 PM >> >> >> >>>> Subject: [proletar] Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad >> >> >> >>>> married >> >> >> >>>> Aisha >> >> >> >>>> when >> >> >> >>>> she was six and had sex with her when she was nine >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> Ulama Saudi ngeluarin fatwa spy bayi perempuan hrs make jilbab >> >> >> >>>> unt >> >> >> >>>> ngelindungi bayi tsb dr pemerkosaan oleh orang2 Islam. Ga >> >> >> >>>> aneh, >> >> >> >>>> krn >> >> >> >>>> nabi itu jg doyan anak ingusan dan nabi adalah contoh yg baik >> >> >> >>>> unt >> >> >> >>>> orang Islam, maka bayi perempuan itu emang hrs dilindungi dr >> >> >> >>>> nabi >> >> >> >>>> dan >> >> >> >>>> orang2 Islam yg soleh pengikut nabi. >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> "Dr. Ahmad Al-Mu'bi: He married her at the age of six, and he >> >> >> >>>> consummated the marriage, by having sex with her for the first >> >> >> >>>> time, >> >> >> >>>> when she was nine. We consider the Prophet Muhammad to be our >> >> >> >>>> model." >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> Hehehe... suri tauladan orang Islam itu adalah nabi yg kawin >> >> >> >>>> dgn >> >> >> >>>> anak >> >> >> >>>> 6 thn dan ngembat si anak di usia 9 thn. Islam itu emang agama >> >> >> >>>> yg >> >> >> >>>> benar, benar2 bejad. >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/06/saudi-marriage-officiant-muhammad-married-aisha-when-she-was-six-and-had-sex-with-her-when-she-was-n.html >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad married Aisha when she >> >> >> >>>> was >> >> >> >>>> six >> >> >> >>>> and had sex with her when she was nine >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> Over the years I've gotten a great deal of abuse for telling >> >> >> >>>> the >> >> >> >>>> truth >> >> >> >>>> about Islam and jihad here, but probably more for pointing out >> >> >> >>>> that >> >> >> >>>> Islamic tradition says that Muhammad married Aisha when she >> >> >> >>>> was >> >> >> >>>> six >> >> >> >>>> and consummated the marriage when she was nine, and that he is >> >> >> >>>> exemplary in this for Islamic law, than for anything else. >> >> >> >>>> See, >> >> >> >>>> to >> >> >> >>>> take just one of many examples, here. Of course, the righteous >> >> >> >>>> indignation over my alleged misrepresentation of this issue is >> >> >> >>>> simply >> >> >> >>>> another manifestation of the general deceptive smokescreen >> >> >> >>>> that >> >> >> >>>> Islamic supremacists deploy in the West. >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> But this MEMRI clip proves the only point I have ever wanted >> >> >> >>>> to >> >> >> >>>> make >> >> >> >>>> about this issue: that Muhammad's example in this has been >> >> >> >>>> taken >> >> >> >>>> and >> >> >> >>>> is still taken as worthy of imitation. >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> "Dr. Ahmad Al-Mub'i, a Saudi Marriage Officiant: It Is Allowed >> >> >> >>>> to >> >> >> >>>> Marry a Girl at the Age of One, If Sex Is Postponed. The >> >> >> >>>> Prophet >> >> >> >>>> Muhammad, Whose Model We Follow, Married 'Aisha When She Was >> >> >> >>>> Six >> >> >> >>>> and >> >> >> >>>> Had Sex with Her When She Was Nine," from MEMRITV, June 19 >> >> >> >>>> (thanks >> >> >> >>>> to >> >> >> >>>> all who sent this in): >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> Following are excerpts from an interview with Dr. Ahmad >> >> >> >>>> Al-Mu'bi, >> >> >> >>>> a Saudi marriage officiant, which aired on LBC TV on June 19, >> >> >> >>>> 2008: >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> Dr. Ahmad Al-Mu'bi: Marriage is actually two things: First >> >> >> >>>> we >> >> >> >>>> are >> >> >> >>>> talking about the marriage contract itself. This is one thing, >> >> >> >>>> while >> >> >> >>>> consummating the marriage – having sex with the wife for the >> >> >> >>>> first >> >> >> >>>> time – is another thing. There is no minimal age for entering >> >> >> >>>> marriage. You can have a marriage contract even with a >> >> >> >>>> one-year-old >> >> >> >>>> girl, not to mention a girl of nine, seven, or eight. This is >> >> >> >>>> merely >> >> >> >>>> a >> >> >> >>>> contract [indicating] consent. The guardian in such a case >> >> >> >>>> must >> >> >> >>>> be >> >> >> >>>> the >> >> >> >>>> father, because the father's opinion is obligatory. Thus, the >> >> >> >>>> girl >> >> >> >>>> becomes a wife... But is the girl ready for sex or not? What >> >> >> >>>> is >> >> >> >>>> the >> >> >> >>>> appropriate age for having sex for the first time? This varies >> >> >> >>>> according to environment and traditions. In Yemen, girls are >> >> >> >>>> married >> >> >> >>>> off at nine, ten, eleven, eight, or thirteen, while in other >> >> >> >>>> countries, they are married off at 16. Some countries have >> >> >> >>>> legislated >> >> >> >>>> laws forbidding having sex before the girl is eighteen. >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> [...] >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> The Prophet Muhammad is the model we follow. He took >> >> >> >>>> 'Aisha >> >> >> >>>> to >> >> >> >>>> be >> >> >> >>>> his wife when she was six, but he had sex with her only when >> >> >> >>>> she >> >> >> >>>> was >> >> >> >>>> nine. >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> Interviewer: When she was six... >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> Dr. Ahmad Al-Mu'bi: He married her at the age of six, and >> >> >> >>>> he >> >> >> >>>> consummated the marriage, by having sex with her for the first >> >> >> >>>> time, >> >> >> >>>> when she was nine. We consider the Prophet Muhammad to be our >> >> >> >>>> model. >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> Interviewer: My question to you is whether the marriage of >> >> >> >>>> a >> >> >> >>>> 12-year-old boy with an 11-year-old girl is a logical >> >> >> >>>> marriage, >> >> >> >>>> which >> >> >> >>>> is permitted by Islamic law. >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> Dr. Ahmad Al-Mu'bi: If the guardian is the father... There >> >> >> >>>> are >> >> >> >>>> two >> >> >> >>>> different types of guardianship. If the guardian is the >> >> >> >>>> father, >> >> >> >>>> and >> >> >> >>>> he >> >> >> >>>> marries his daughter off to a man of appropriate standing, the >> >> >> >>>> marriage is obviously valid. >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> [...] >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> People find themselves in all kinds of circumstances. >> >> >> >>>> Take, >> >> >> >>>> for >> >> >> >>>> example, a man who has two, three, or four daughters. He does >> >> >> >>>> not >> >> >> >>>> have >> >> >> >>>> any wives, but he needs to go on a trip. Isn't it better to >> >> >> >>>> marry >> >> >> >>>> his >> >> >> >>>> daughter to a man, who will protect and sustain her, and when >> >> >> >>>> she >> >> >> >>>> reaches the proper age, he will have sex with her? Who says >> >> >> >>>> all >> >> >> >>>> men >> >> >> >>>> are ferocious wolves? >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> Yeah! >> >> >> >>>> Posted by Robert on June 25, 2008 8:47 AM | 42 Comments >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> ------------------------------------ >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> Post message: [email protected] >> >> >> >>>> Subscribe : [email protected] >> >> >> >>>> Unsubscribe : [email protected] >> >> >> >>>> List owner : [email protected] >> >> >> >>>> Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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