Hehehe... sekarang lu udah belajar spy ga ngegoblok2in anjing buduk
piaraan lu, jadi ada kemajuan jg.



On 2/4/13, rezameutia <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Lha..., mosok gw musti serius ngeladenin ngomong orang idiot kayak elo yang
> nyembah2 minta maaf ke anjing?
>
> Yang bener aja lo.
>
> Hehehe....
>
>
>
>
> --- In [email protected], itemabu2  wrote:
>>
>> Hehehe... orang2 Islam dan anjing2 buduk piaraannya itu ga bisa ngadu
>> argumen, makanya mereka cuma muter2 lidah ngeributin omongan gua yg
>> diplintir2.
>>
>> Silakan aja, itu cuma nunjukin ketololan mereka.
>>
>>
>> On 2/4/13, rezameutia  wrote:
>> >
>> > Iya, gw percaya omongan lo nyembah2 minta maaf ke anjing kan?!
>> >
>> > Hehehe.....
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --- In [email protected], itemabu2  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Orang mau percaya apa ga omongan gua, silakan aja.
>> >>
>> >> Yg penting adalah gua udah ngomong, kalo ada yg ga percaya, itu
>> >> resikonya sendiri, gua udah ga tanggung jawab lagi.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 2/4/13, Musik hari Ini  wrote:
>> >> > Goyim tolol
>> >> > Kibulan elu kagak laku diPROL
>> >> >
>> >> > jangan ajarin bebek berenang.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > ________________________________
>> >> >  From: itemabu2
>> >> > To: [email protected]
>> >> > Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 10:21 PM
>> >> > Subject: Re: [proletar] Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad married
>> >> > Aisha
>> >> > when she was six and had sex with her when she was nine
>> >> >
>> >> > Lu ini tololnya minta ampun, sampe lu ga tau bhw Tabari dll itu
>> >> > kadang
>> >> > ngutip ocehan beberapa orang yg isinya berbeda.
>> >> >
>> >> > Quran bilang halal ngembat anak ingusan. Ga ada tuh di CNN atau MNBC
>> >> > or whatever, cuma ada di Quran. Omong kosong jadinya nurut ocehan lu
>> >> > sendiri, bukan?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On 2/4/13, Musik hari Ini  wrote:
>> >> >> Goyim tolol
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Menurut Tabari, keempat anak Abu Bakar (termasuk Aisyah) dilahirkan
>> >> >> oleh
>> >> >>  istrinya pada zaman Jahiliyah, artinya sebelum 610 M.[3] Apabila
>> >> >> Aisyah
>> >> >>  dinikahkan sebelum 620 M, maka ia dinikahkan pada umur
>> >> >> di atas 10 tahun dan hidup sebagai suami-istri dengan Muhammad
>> >> >> dalam
>> >> >> umur di atas 13 tahun. Menurut Abd alRahman bin Abi Zannad: "Asmah
>> >> >> 10
>> >> >> tahun lebih tua dari Aisyah."[4] Menurut Ibnu Hajar al-'Asqalani,
>> >> >> Asmah
>> >> >> hidup hingga usia 100 tahun dan meninggal tahun 73 atau 74
>> >> >> Hijriyah.[5]
>> >> >> Apabila Asmah meninggal dalam usia 100 tahun dan meninggal dalam
>> >> >> tahun
>> >> >> 73 atau 74 Hijriyah, maka Asma berumur 27 atau 28 tahun pada waktu
>> >> >> Hijrah, sehingga Aisyah berumur (27 atau 28) - 10 = 17 atau 18
>> >> >> tahun
>> >> >> pada waktu Hijrah. Itu berarti Aisyah mulai hidup berumah tangga
>> >> >> dengan
>> >> >> Muhammad
>> >> >> pada waktu berumur 19 atau 20 tahun.
>> >> >> Sedangkan menurut Sahih Al-Bukhari, Aisyah sendiri mengatakan bahwa
>> >> >> dirinya dinikahi oleh Muhammad ketika berumur 6 (enam) tahun.[6]
>> >> >> Pandangan ini juga berlaku di kalangan umat islam tertentu.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ________________________________
>> >> >>  From: itemabu2
>> >> >> To: [email protected]
>> >> >> Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 9:41 PM
>> >> >> Subject: Re: [proletar] Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad
>> >> >> married
>> >> >> Aisha
>> >> >> when she was six and had sex with her when she was nine
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Menurut Tabari
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "My mother came to me while I was being swung on a swing between
>> >> >> two
>> >> >> branches and got me down. My nurse took over and wiped my face with
>> >> >> some water and started leading me. When I was at the door she
>> >> >> stopped
>> >> >> so I could catch my breath. I was brought in while Muhammad was
>> >> >> sitting on a bed in our house. My mother made me sit on his lap.
>> >> >> The
>> >> >> other men and women got up and left. The Prophet consummated his
>> >> >> marriage with me in my house when I was nine years old. Neither a
>> >> >> camel nor a sheep was slaughtered on behalf of me."
>> >> >> Al-Tabari, Vol. 9, p. 131
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 2/4/13, Musik hari Ini  wrote:
>> >> >>> Goyim tolol
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Menurut Tabari, keempat anak Abu Bakar (termasuk Aisyah)
>> >> >>> dilahirkan
>> >> >>> oleh
>> >> >>> istrinya pada zaman Jahiliyah, artinya sebelum 610 M.[3] Apabila
>> >> >>> Aisyah
>> >> >>> dinikahkan sebelum 620 M, maka ia dinikahkan pada umur
>> >> >>> di atas 10 tahun dan hidup sebagai suami-istri dengan Muhammad
>> >> >>> dalam
>> >> >>> umur di atas 13 tahun. Menurut Abd alRahman bin Abi Zannad: "Asmah
>> >> >>> 10
>> >> >>> tahun
>> >> >>> lebih tua dari Aisyah."[4] Menurut Ibnu Hajar al-'Asqalani, Asmah
>> >> >>> hidup
>> >> >>> hingga usia 100 tahun dan meninggal tahun 73 atau 74 Hijriyah.[5]
>> >> >>> Apabila
>> >> >>> Asmah meninggal dalam usia 100 tahun dan meninggal dalam tahun
>> >> >>> 73 atau 74 Hijriyah, maka Asma berumur 27 atau 28 tahun pada waktu
>> >> >>> Hijrah,
>> >> >>> sehingga Aisyah berumur (27 atau 28) - 10 = 17 atau 18 tahun pada
>> >> >>> waktu
>> >> >>> Hijrah. Itu berarti Aisyah mulai hidup berumah tangga dengan
>> >> >>> Muhammad
>> >> >>> pada waktu berumur 19 atau 20 tahun.
>> >> >>> Sedangkan menurut Sahih Al-Bukhari, Aisyah sendiri mengatakan
>> >> >>> bahwa
>> >> >>> dirinya
>> >> >>> dinikahi oleh Muhammad ketika berumur 6 (enam) tahun.[6] Pandangan
>> >> >>> ini
>> >> >>> juga
>> >> >>> berlaku di kalangan umat islam tertentu.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> ________________________________
>> >> >>>  From: itemabu2
>> >> >>> To: [email protected]
>> >> >>> Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 9:31 PM
>> >> >>> Subject: Re: [proletar] Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad
>> >> >>> married
>> >> >>> Aisha
>> >> >>> when she was six and had sex with her when she was nine
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Narrated Aisha: "The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six
>> >> >>> (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of
>> >> >>> Bani-al-Harith
>> >> >>> bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my
>> >> >>> hair
>> >> >>> grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was
>> >> >>> playing
>> >> >>> in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went
>> >> >>> to
>> >> >>> her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the
>> >> >>> hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless
>> >> >>> then, and when my breathing became Alright, she took some water
>> >> >>> and
>> >> >>> rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house.
>> >> >>> There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes
>> >> >>> and
>> >> >>> Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them
>> >> >>> and
>> >> >>> they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle
>> >> >>> came
>> >> >>> to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at
>> >> >>> that
>> >> >>> time I was a girl of nine years of age.
>> >> >>> Sahih Bukhari 5:58:234
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On 2/3/13, Musik hari Ini  wrote:
>> >> >>>> Goyim tolol
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> kagak ada di CNN atau msnbc.....referesi dari jahatwatch
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> kebanyakan bohong nya sama kayak elu dkk
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> isinya total fitnahan.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> ________________________________
>> >> >>>>  From: itemabu2
>> >> >>>> To: proletar
>> >> >>>> Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 5:01 PM
>> >> >>>> Subject: [proletar] Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad married
>> >> >>>> Aisha
>> >> >>>> when
>> >> >>>> she was six and had sex with her when she was nine
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Ulama Saudi ngeluarin fatwa spy bayi perempuan hrs make jilbab
>> >> >>>> unt
>> >> >>>> ngelindungi bayi tsb dr pemerkosaan oleh orang2 Islam. Ga aneh,
>> >> >>>> krn
>> >> >>>> nabi itu jg doyan anak ingusan dan nabi adalah contoh yg baik unt
>> >> >>>> orang Islam, maka bayi perempuan itu emang hrs dilindungi dr nabi
>> >> >>>> dan
>> >> >>>> orang2 Islam yg soleh pengikut nabi.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> "Dr. Ahmad Al-Mu'bi: He married her at the age of six, and he
>> >> >>>> consummated the marriage, by having sex with her for the first
>> >> >>>> time,
>> >> >>>> when she was nine. We consider the Prophet Muhammad to be our
>> >> >>>> model."
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Hehehe... suri tauladan orang Islam itu adalah nabi yg kawin dgn
>> >> >>>> anak
>> >> >>>> 6 thn dan ngembat si anak di usia 9 thn. Islam itu emang agama yg
>> >> >>>> benar, benar2 bejad.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/06/saudi-marriage-officiant-muhammad-married-aisha-when-she-was-six-and-had-sex-with-her-when-she-was-n.html
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad married Aisha when she was
>> >> >>>> six
>> >> >>>> and had sex with her when she was nine
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Over the years I've gotten a great deal of abuse for telling the
>> >> >>>> truth
>> >> >>>> about Islam and jihad here, but probably more for pointing out
>> >> >>>> that
>> >> >>>> Islamic tradition says that Muhammad married Aisha when she was
>> >> >>>> six
>> >> >>>> and consummated the marriage when she was nine, and that he is
>> >> >>>> exemplary in this for Islamic law, than for anything else. See,
>> >> >>>> to
>> >> >>>> take just one of many examples, here. Of course, the righteous
>> >> >>>> indignation over my alleged misrepresentation of this issue is
>> >> >>>> simply
>> >> >>>> another manifestation of the general deceptive smokescreen that
>> >> >>>> Islamic supremacists deploy in the West.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> But this MEMRI clip proves the only point I have ever wanted to
>> >> >>>> make
>> >> >>>> about this issue: that Muhammad's example in this has been taken
>> >> >>>> and
>> >> >>>> is still taken as worthy of imitation.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> "Dr. Ahmad Al-Mub'i, a Saudi Marriage Officiant: It Is Allowed to
>> >> >>>> Marry a Girl at the Age of One, If Sex Is Postponed. The Prophet
>> >> >>>> Muhammad, Whose Model We Follow, Married 'Aisha When She Was Six
>> >> >>>> and
>> >> >>>> Had Sex with Her When She Was Nine," from MEMRITV, June 19
>> >> >>>> (thanks
>> >> >>>> to
>> >> >>>> all who sent this in):
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>     Following are excerpts from an interview with Dr. Ahmad
>> >> >>>> Al-Mu'bi,
>> >> >>>> a Saudi marriage officiant, which aired on LBC TV on June 19,
>> >> >>>> 2008:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>     Dr. Ahmad Al-Mu'bi: Marriage is actually two things: First we
>> >> >>>> are
>> >> >>>> talking about the marriage contract itself. This is one thing,
>> >> >>>> while
>> >> >>>> consummating the marriage – having sex with the wife for the
>> >> >>>> first
>> >> >>>> time – is another thing. There is no minimal age for entering
>> >> >>>> marriage. You can have a marriage contract even with a
>> >> >>>> one-year-old
>> >> >>>> girl, not to mention a girl of nine, seven, or eight. This is
>> >> >>>> merely
>> >> >>>> a
>> >> >>>> contract [indicating] consent. The guardian in such a case must
>> >> >>>> be
>> >> >>>> the
>> >> >>>> father, because the father's opinion is obligatory. Thus, the
>> >> >>>> girl
>> >> >>>> becomes a wife... But is the girl ready for sex or not? What is
>> >> >>>> the
>> >> >>>> appropriate age for having sex for the first time? This varies
>> >> >>>> according to environment and traditions. In Yemen, girls are
>> >> >>>> married
>> >> >>>> off at nine, ten, eleven, eight, or thirteen, while in other
>> >> >>>> countries, they are married off at 16. Some countries have
>> >> >>>> legislated
>> >> >>>> laws forbidding having sex before the girl is eighteen.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>     [...]
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>     The Prophet Muhammad is the model we follow. He took 'Aisha
>> >> >>>> to
>> >> >>>> be
>> >> >>>> his wife when she was six, but he had sex with her only when she
>> >> >>>> was
>> >> >>>> nine.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>     Interviewer: When she was six...
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>     Dr. Ahmad Al-Mu'bi: He married her at the age of six, and he
>> >> >>>> consummated the marriage, by having sex with her for the first
>> >> >>>> time,
>> >> >>>> when she was nine. We consider the Prophet Muhammad to be our
>> >> >>>> model.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>     Interviewer: My question to you is whether the marriage of a
>> >> >>>> 12-year-old boy with an 11-year-old girl is a logical marriage,
>> >> >>>> which
>> >> >>>> is permitted by Islamic law.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>     Dr. Ahmad Al-Mu'bi: If the guardian is the father... There
>> >> >>>> are
>> >> >>>> two
>> >> >>>> different types of guardianship. If the guardian is the father,
>> >> >>>> and
>> >> >>>> he
>> >> >>>> marries his daughter off to a man of appropriate standing, the
>> >> >>>> marriage is obviously valid.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>     [...]
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>     People find themselves in all kinds of circumstances. Take,
>> >> >>>> for
>> >> >>>> example, a man who has two, three, or four daughters. He does not
>> >> >>>> have
>> >> >>>> any wives, but he needs to go on a trip. Isn't it better to marry
>> >> >>>> his
>> >> >>>> daughter to a man, who will protect and sustain her, and when she
>> >> >>>> reaches the proper age, he will have sex with her? Who says all
>> >> >>>> men
>> >> >>>> are ferocious wolves?
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Yeah!
>> >> >>>> Posted by Robert on June 25, 2008 8:47 AM | 42 Comments
>> >> >>>>
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