Hehehe.... Gw udah belajar banyak di milis ini, ternyata ada orang Kristen yang saking idiotnya sampe nyembah2 minta maaf ke anjing.
--- In [email protected], itemabu2 wrote: > > Hehehe... sekarang lu udah belajar spy ga ngegoblok2in anjing buduk > piaraan lu, jadi ada kemajuan jg. > > > > On 2/4/13, rezameutia wrote: > > > > Lha..., mosok gw musti serius ngeladenin ngomong orang idiot kayak elo yang > > nyembah2 minta maaf ke anjing? > > > > Yang bener aja lo. > > > > Hehehe.... > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], itemabu2 wrote: > >> > >> Hehehe... orang2 Islam dan anjing2 buduk piaraannya itu ga bisa ngadu > >> argumen, makanya mereka cuma muter2 lidah ngeributin omongan gua yg > >> diplintir2. > >> > >> Silakan aja, itu cuma nunjukin ketololan mereka. > >> > >> > >> On 2/4/13, rezameutia wrote: > >> > > >> > Iya, gw percaya omongan lo nyembah2 minta maaf ke anjing kan?! > >> > > >> > Hehehe..... > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > --- In [email protected], itemabu2 wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Orang mau percaya apa ga omongan gua, silakan aja. > >> >> > >> >> Yg penting adalah gua udah ngomong, kalo ada yg ga percaya, itu > >> >> resikonya sendiri, gua udah ga tanggung jawab lagi. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On 2/4/13, Musik hari Ini wrote: > >> >> > Goyim tolol > >> >> > Kibulan elu kagak laku diPROL > >> >> > > >> >> > jangan ajarin bebek berenang. > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > ________________________________ > >> >> > From: itemabu2 > >> >> > To: [email protected] > >> >> > Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 10:21 PM > >> >> > Subject: Re: [proletar] Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad married > >> >> > Aisha > >> >> > when she was six and had sex with her when she was nine > >> >> > > >> >> > Lu ini tololnya minta ampun, sampe lu ga tau bhw Tabari dll itu > >> >> > kadang > >> >> > ngutip ocehan beberapa orang yg isinya berbeda. > >> >> > > >> >> > Quran bilang halal ngembat anak ingusan. Ga ada tuh di CNN atau MNBC > >> >> > or whatever, cuma ada di Quran. Omong kosong jadinya nurut ocehan lu > >> >> > sendiri, bukan? > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > On 2/4/13, Musik hari Ini wrote: > >> >> >> Goyim tolol > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Menurut Tabari, keempat anak Abu Bakar (termasuk Aisyah) dilahirkan > >> >> >> oleh > >> >> >> istrinya pada zaman Jahiliyah, artinya sebelum 610 M.[3] Apabila > >> >> >> Aisyah > >> >> >> dinikahkan sebelum 620 M, maka ia dinikahkan pada umur > >> >> >> di atas 10 tahun dan hidup sebagai suami-istri dengan Muhammad > >> >> >> dalam > >> >> >> umur di atas 13 tahun. Menurut Abd alRahman bin Abi Zannad: "Asmah > >> >> >> 10 > >> >> >> tahun lebih tua dari Aisyah."[4] Menurut Ibnu Hajar al-'Asqalani, > >> >> >> Asmah > >> >> >> hidup hingga usia 100 tahun dan meninggal tahun 73 atau 74 > >> >> >> Hijriyah.[5] > >> >> >> Apabila Asmah meninggal dalam usia 100 tahun dan meninggal dalam > >> >> >> tahun > >> >> >> 73 atau 74 Hijriyah, maka Asma berumur 27 atau 28 tahun pada waktu > >> >> >> Hijrah, sehingga Aisyah berumur (27 atau 28) - 10 = 17 atau 18 > >> >> >> tahun > >> >> >> pada waktu Hijrah. Itu berarti Aisyah mulai hidup berumah tangga > >> >> >> dengan > >> >> >> Muhammad > >> >> >> pada waktu berumur 19 atau 20 tahun. > >> >> >> Sedangkan menurut Sahih Al-Bukhari, Aisyah sendiri mengatakan bahwa > >> >> >> dirinya dinikahi oleh Muhammad ketika berumur 6 (enam) tahun.[6] > >> >> >> Pandangan ini juga berlaku di kalangan umat islam tertentu. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> ________________________________ > >> >> >> From: itemabu2 > >> >> >> To: [email protected] > >> >> >> Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 9:41 PM > >> >> >> Subject: Re: [proletar] Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad > >> >> >> married > >> >> >> Aisha > >> >> >> when she was six and had sex with her when she was nine > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Menurut Tabari > >> >> >> > >> >> >> "My mother came to me while I was being swung on a swing between > >> >> >> two > >> >> >> branches and got me down. My nurse took over and wiped my face with > >> >> >> some water and started leading me. When I was at the door she > >> >> >> stopped > >> >> >> so I could catch my breath. I was brought in while Muhammad was > >> >> >> sitting on a bed in our house. My mother made me sit on his lap. > >> >> >> The > >> >> >> other men and women got up and left. The Prophet consummated his > >> >> >> marriage with me in my house when I was nine years old. Neither a > >> >> >> camel nor a sheep was slaughtered on behalf of me." > >> >> >> Al-Tabari, Vol. 9, p. 131 > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> On 2/4/13, Musik hari Ini wrote: > >> >> >>> Goyim tolol > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> Menurut Tabari, keempat anak Abu Bakar (termasuk Aisyah) > >> >> >>> dilahirkan > >> >> >>> oleh > >> >> >>> istrinya pada zaman Jahiliyah, artinya sebelum 610 M.[3] Apabila > >> >> >>> Aisyah > >> >> >>> dinikahkan sebelum 620 M, maka ia dinikahkan pada umur > >> >> >>> di atas 10 tahun dan hidup sebagai suami-istri dengan Muhammad > >> >> >>> dalam > >> >> >>> umur di atas 13 tahun. Menurut Abd alRahman bin Abi Zannad: "Asmah > >> >> >>> 10 > >> >> >>> tahun > >> >> >>> lebih tua dari Aisyah."[4] Menurut Ibnu Hajar al-'Asqalani, Asmah > >> >> >>> hidup > >> >> >>> hingga usia 100 tahun dan meninggal tahun 73 atau 74 Hijriyah.[5] > >> >> >>> Apabila > >> >> >>> Asmah meninggal dalam usia 100 tahun dan meninggal dalam tahun > >> >> >>> 73 atau 74 Hijriyah, maka Asma berumur 27 atau 28 tahun pada waktu > >> >> >>> Hijrah, > >> >> >>> sehingga Aisyah berumur (27 atau 28) - 10 = 17 atau 18 tahun pada > >> >> >>> waktu > >> >> >>> Hijrah. Itu berarti Aisyah mulai hidup berumah tangga dengan > >> >> >>> Muhammad > >> >> >>> pada waktu berumur 19 atau 20 tahun. > >> >> >>> Sedangkan menurut Sahih Al-Bukhari, Aisyah sendiri mengatakan > >> >> >>> bahwa > >> >> >>> dirinya > >> >> >>> dinikahi oleh Muhammad ketika berumur 6 (enam) tahun.[6] Pandangan > >> >> >>> ini > >> >> >>> juga > >> >> >>> berlaku di kalangan umat islam tertentu. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> ________________________________ > >> >> >>> From: itemabu2 > >> >> >>> To: [email protected] > >> >> >>> Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 9:31 PM > >> >> >>> Subject: Re: [proletar] Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad > >> >> >>> married > >> >> >>> Aisha > >> >> >>> when she was six and had sex with her when she was nine > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> Narrated Aisha: "The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six > >> >> >>> (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of > >> >> >>> Bani-al-Harith > >> >> >>> bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my > >> >> >>> hair > >> >> >>> grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was > >> >> >>> playing > >> >> >>> in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went > >> >> >>> to > >> >> >>> her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the > >> >> >>> hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless > >> >> >>> then, and when my breathing became Alright, she took some water > >> >> >>> and > >> >> >>> rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. > >> >> >>> There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes > >> >> >>> and > >> >> >>> Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them > >> >> >>> and > >> >> >>> they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle > >> >> >>> came > >> >> >>> to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at > >> >> >>> that > >> >> >>> time I was a girl of nine years of age. > >> >> >>> Sahih Bukhari 5:58:234 > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> On 2/3/13, Musik hari Ini wrote: > >> >> >>>> Goyim tolol > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> kagak ada di CNN atau msnbc.....referesi dari jahatwatch > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> kebanyakan bohong nya sama kayak elu dkk > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> isinya total fitnahan. > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> ________________________________ > >> >> >>>> From: itemabu2 > >> >> >>>> To: proletar > >> >> >>>> Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 5:01 PM > >> >> >>>> Subject: [proletar] Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad married > >> >> >>>> Aisha > >> >> >>>> when > >> >> >>>> she was six and had sex with her when she was nine > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> Ulama Saudi ngeluarin fatwa spy bayi perempuan hrs make jilbab > >> >> >>>> unt > >> >> >>>> ngelindungi bayi tsb dr pemerkosaan oleh orang2 Islam. Ga aneh, > >> >> >>>> krn > >> >> >>>> nabi itu jg doyan anak ingusan dan nabi adalah contoh yg baik unt > >> >> >>>> orang Islam, maka bayi perempuan itu emang hrs dilindungi dr nabi > >> >> >>>> dan > >> >> >>>> orang2 Islam yg soleh pengikut nabi. > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> "Dr. Ahmad Al-Mu'bi: He married her at the age of six, and he > >> >> >>>> consummated the marriage, by having sex with her for the first > >> >> >>>> time, > >> >> >>>> when she was nine. We consider the Prophet Muhammad to be our > >> >> >>>> model." > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> Hehehe... suri tauladan orang Islam itu adalah nabi yg kawin dgn > >> >> >>>> anak > >> >> >>>> 6 thn dan ngembat si anak di usia 9 thn. Islam itu emang agama yg > >> >> >>>> benar, benar2 bejad. > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/06/saudi-marriage-officiant-muhammad-married-aisha-when-she-was-six-and-had-sex-with-her-when-she-was-n.html > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> Saudi "marriage officiant": Muhammad married Aisha when she was > >> >> >>>> six > >> >> >>>> and had sex with her when she was nine > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> Over the years I've gotten a great deal of abuse for telling the > >> >> >>>> truth > >> >> >>>> about Islam and jihad here, but probably more for pointing out > >> >> >>>> that > >> >> >>>> Islamic tradition says that Muhammad married Aisha when she was > >> >> >>>> six > >> >> >>>> and consummated the marriage when she was nine, and that he is > >> >> >>>> exemplary in this for Islamic law, than for anything else. See, > >> >> >>>> to > >> >> >>>> take just one of many examples, here. Of course, the righteous > >> >> >>>> indignation over my alleged misrepresentation of this issue is > >> >> >>>> simply > >> >> >>>> another manifestation of the general deceptive smokescreen that > >> >> >>>> Islamic supremacists deploy in the West. > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> But this MEMRI clip proves the only point I have ever wanted to > >> >> >>>> make > >> >> >>>> about this issue: that Muhammad's example in this has been taken > >> >> >>>> and > >> >> >>>> is still taken as worthy of imitation. > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> "Dr. Ahmad Al-Mub'i, a Saudi Marriage Officiant: It Is Allowed to > >> >> >>>> Marry a Girl at the Age of One, If Sex Is Postponed. The Prophet > >> >> >>>> Muhammad, Whose Model We Follow, Married 'Aisha When She Was Six > >> >> >>>> and > >> >> >>>> Had Sex with Her When She Was Nine," from MEMRITV, June 19 > >> >> >>>> (thanks > >> >> >>>> to > >> >> >>>> all who sent this in): > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> Following are excerpts from an interview with Dr. Ahmad > >> >> >>>> Al-Mu'bi, > >> >> >>>> a Saudi marriage officiant, which aired on LBC TV on June 19, > >> >> >>>> 2008: > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> Dr. Ahmad Al-Mu'bi: Marriage is actually two things: First we > >> >> >>>> are > >> >> >>>> talking about the marriage contract itself. This is one thing, > >> >> >>>> while > >> >> >>>> consummating the marriage having sex with the wife for the > >> >> >>>> first > >> >> >>>> time is another thing. There is no minimal age for entering > >> >> >>>> marriage. You can have a marriage contract even with a > >> >> >>>> one-year-old > >> >> >>>> girl, not to mention a girl of nine, seven, or eight. This is > >> >> >>>> merely > >> >> >>>> a > >> >> >>>> contract [indicating] consent. The guardian in such a case must > >> >> >>>> be > >> >> >>>> the > >> >> >>>> father, because the father's opinion is obligatory. Thus, the > >> >> >>>> girl > >> >> >>>> becomes a wife... But is the girl ready for sex or not? What is > >> >> >>>> the > >> >> >>>> appropriate age for having sex for the first time? This varies > >> >> >>>> according to environment and traditions. In Yemen, girls are > >> >> >>>> married > >> >> >>>> off at nine, ten, eleven, eight, or thirteen, while in other > >> >> >>>> countries, they are married off at 16. Some countries have > >> >> >>>> legislated > >> >> >>>> laws forbidding having sex before the girl is eighteen. > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> [...] > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> The Prophet Muhammad is the model we follow. He took 'Aisha > >> >> >>>> to > >> >> >>>> be > >> >> >>>> his wife when she was six, but he had sex with her only when she > >> >> >>>> was > >> >> >>>> nine. > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> Interviewer: When she was six... > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> Dr. Ahmad Al-Mu'bi: He married her at the age of six, and he > >> >> >>>> consummated the marriage, by having sex with her for the first > >> >> >>>> time, > >> >> >>>> when she was nine. We consider the Prophet Muhammad to be our > >> >> >>>> model. > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> Interviewer: My question to you is whether the marriage of a > >> >> >>>> 12-year-old boy with an 11-year-old girl is a logical marriage, > >> >> >>>> which > >> >> >>>> is permitted by Islamic law. > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> Dr. Ahmad Al-Mu'bi: If the guardian is the father... There > >> >> >>>> are > >> >> >>>> two > >> >> >>>> different types of guardianship. If the guardian is the father, > >> >> >>>> and > >> >> >>>> he > >> >> >>>> marries his daughter off to a man of appropriate standing, the > >> >> >>>> marriage is obviously valid. > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> [...] > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> People find themselves in all kinds of circumstances. Take, > >> >> >>>> for > >> >> >>>> example, a man who has two, three, or four daughters. He does not > >> >> >>>> have > >> >> >>>> any wives, but he needs to go on a trip. Isn't it better to marry > >> >> >>>> his > >> >> >>>> daughter to a man, who will protect and sustain her, and when she > >> >> >>>> reaches the proper age, he will have sex with her? 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