itulah anehnya si uplik.
kalo ngga ada yg nyuruh dia tiba2 rajin sendiri ngubek2 arsip prol, sampe
postingan gua ttg masang
tegelnya habe aja dia gali lagi, sambil berharap gua dan habe "ribut" lagi. lol.
tapi giliran disuruh bawa bukti atas fitnahannya tiba2 dia jadi pemalesan.
konon sih, pecandu ganja dan sabu itu kayak gitu, suka tiba2 rajin sendiri.
--- In [email protected], "Teddy S." <teddyr@...> wrote:
>
> Tapi dia sebelumnya rajin lho ngubek-ngubek arsip prol untuk cari bukti bahwa
> si item abu tidak sesuai dengan yang dituduhkan.
>
>
> --- In [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > yg bener aja ted.
> > berharap tukul jadi presiden jauh lebih realistis ketimbang berharap uplik
> > bawa bukti.
> >
> > --- In [email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Coba bawa buktinya, kalau tidak bisa bawa buktinya artinya sudah
> > > memfitnah.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > arra_s, ayub yahya, Dipo, Hasan Basri, johny-indon, 'Musik hari ini',
> > > > Pinpin, rezameutia, Roman Proteus, suryana, Teddy dan orang Islam lain
> > > > yang pernah hadir disini sama saja dengan Greg Le Mond itu..
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > wah persis kelakuan member milis ini yg berinisial depan J dan
> > > > > inisial belakang ohny_indon huehuehuehuehee
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In [email protected]>
> > > > > > Cc: Proletar <[email protected]>; Pemikir
> > > > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > Cc: Proletar<[email protected]>;
> > > > > > Pemikir<[email protected]>
> > > > > > Cc: Proletar <[email protected]>; Pemikir
> > > > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > Cc: Proletar<[email protected]>;
> > > > > > Pemikir<[email protected]>
> > > > > > Cc: Proletar <[email protected]>; Pemikir
> > > > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > Cc: proletar<[email protected]>; milis
> > > > > > parapemikir<[email protected]>
> > > > > > Subject: Paus mengritik Islam (=Tidak menjadi mualaf)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Beberapa waktu lalu Grek dlm postingnya yg berjudul Paus Masuk
> > > > > > Islam dan disertai himbauan agar yg membaca menyebar luaskan klaim
> > > > > > orang2 dungu bhw Pope Benedict mengundurkan diri dan masuk Islam.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Untuk keseimbangan pendapat aku sertakan artikel mengenai pidato
> > > > > > Paus Benedict yg DIPROTES keras oleh umat Islam karena beliau dlm
> > > > > > pidatonya mengritik Islam. Yg ingin lebih banyak membaca ttg
> > > > > > pendapat dia mengenai Islam aku anjurkan untuk click 'Pope
> > > > > > Benedict's speech on Islam' atau 'Pope Benedict's criticism of
> > > > > > Islam'
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gabriella
> > > > > >
> > > > > > POPE BENEDICT CRITICIZES ISLAM
> > > > > > (Artinya dia tidak menjadi mualaf)
> > > > > > Â
> > > > > > "Show me just what Muhammad brought that was
> > > > > > new, and thereyou will find things only evil and inhuman, such as
> > > > > > his command
> > > > > > to spread by the sword the faith he preached."
> > > > > > These
> > > > > > words, expressed six centuries ago by a Byzantine emperor, Manuel II
> > > > > > Paleologus, in dialogue with an Iranian scholar, spur three
> > > > > > reflections.
> > > > > > Pope
> > > > > > Benedict XVI offered the above quote, neither endorsing nor
> > > > > > condemning it, in
> > > > > > his academic speech, "Faith, Reason and the University: Memories
> > > > > > and Reflections," delivered in German last week in Germany. It
> > > > > > served to introduce his erudite critique of the Western concept of
> > > > > > reason since
> > > > > > the Enlightenment.
> > > > > > But did
> > > > > > he have other purposes? The head of the Benedictine order, Abbot
> > > > > > Notker Wolf, understood the pope's quote as
> > > > > > "a blatant allusion to [Iran's President Mahmoud] Ahmadinejad."
> > > > > > Vatican insiders told the LondonSunday Times that Benedict "was
> > > > > > trying to pre-empt an aggressive letter aimed at the
> > > > > > papacy by the president of Iran, which was why he cited the debate
> > > > > > involving a
> > > > > > Persian."
> > > > > > First
> > > > > > reflection: Benedict has offered elusive comments, brief
> > > > > > statements, and now this delphic quotation,
> > > > > > but he has not provided a much-needed major statement on this vital
> > > > > > topic of
> > > > > > Islam. One hopes it is in the offing.
> > > > > > Whatever
> > > > > > the pope's purpose, he prompted the near-predictable furor in the
> > > > > > Muslim world.
> > > > > > Religious and political authorities widely condemned the speech,
> > > > > > with some
> > > > > > calling for violence.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * In Britain, while leading a rally outside Westminster
> > > > > > Cathedral, Anjem Choudary of Al-Ghurabaa called for the pope "to be
> > > > > > subject to capital punishment."
> > > > > > * In Iraq, the Mujahideen's Army threatened to "smash the
> > > > > > crosses in the house of the dog from Rome" and other groups made
> > > > > > blood-curdling threats.
> > > > > > * In Kuwait, an important website called for violent
> > > > > > retribution against Catholics.
> > > > > > * In Somalia, the religious leader Abubukar Hassan Malin urged
> > > > > > Muslims to "hunt down" the pope and kill him "on the spot."
> > > > > > * In India, a leading imam, Syed Ahmed Bukhari, called on
> > > > > > Muslims to "respond in a manner which forces the pope to
> > > > > > apologise."
> > > > > > * A top Al-Qaeda figure announced that "the infidelity and
> > > > > > tyranny of the pope will only be stopped by a major attack."
> > > > > > The
> > > > > > Vatican responded by establishing an extraordinary and
> > > > > > unprecedented security cordon around the pope. Further away, the
> > > > > > incitement spurred some violence, with more
> > > > > > likely on the way. Seven churches were attacked in the West Bank
> > > > > > and Gaza, one in Basra, Iraq (prompting this ironic headline at
> > > > > > the "RedState" blog: "Pope implies Islam a violent religion ...
> > > > > > Muslims bomb
> > > > > > churches"). The murder of an Italian nun in Somalia and two
> > > > > > Assyrians in Iraq also appear connected.
> > > > > > Second
> > > > > > reflection: this new round of Muslim outrage, violence, and murder
> > > > > > has a by-now
> > > > > > routine quality. Earlier versions occurred in 1989 (in response to
> > > > > > Salman Rushdie's novel, The Satanic Verses),
> > > > > > 1997 (when the U.S. Supreme Court did not take down a representation
> > > > > > of Muhammad), 2002 (when Jerry Falwell called Muhammad a
> > > > > > terrorist), 2005
> > > > > > (the fraudulent Koran-flushing episode), and February 2006 (the
> > > > > > Danish cartoon incident).
> > > > > > Vatican
> > > > > > leaders tried to defuse the pope's quote, as well as his
> > > > > > condemnation of jihad (holy war). The papal spokesman, Federico
> > > > > > Lombardi, S.J., said Benedict did not
> > > > > > intend to give "an interpretation of Islam as violent. ⦠inside
> > > > > > Islam
> > > > > > there are many different positions and there are many positions
> > > > > > that are not
> > > > > > violent." Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, the secretary of state,
> > > > > > indicated that the pope "sincerely regrets that certain passages of
> > > > > > his
> > > > > > address could have sounded offensive to the sensitivities of the
> > > > > > Muslim
> > > > > > faithful."
> > > > > > Then, in
> > > > > > what may be an unprecedented step by a pope, Benedict himself
> > > > > > proffered the sort of semi-apology often favored by those feeling
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > heat. "I am deeply sorry for the reactions in some countries to a
> > > > > > few
> > > > > > passages of my address," reads the official Vatican translation into
> > > > > > English, "which were considered offensive to the sensibility of
> > > > > > Muslims.
> > > > > > These in fact were a quotation from a medieval text, which do not
> > > > > > in any way
> > > > > > express my personal thought."
> > > > > > In the Italian original, however, Benedict says only sono
> > > > > > rammaricato, which translates as "I am disappointed" or
> > > > > > "I regret."
> > > > > > Third
> > > > > > reflection: the Muslim uproar has a goal: to prohibit criticism of
> > > > > > Islam by
> > > > > > Christians and thereby to impose Shariah norms on the West. Should
> > > > > > Westerners accept this central tenet of Islamic law, others will
> > > > > > surely follow.
> > > > > > Retaining free speech about Islam, therefore, represents a critical
> > > > > > defense
> > > > > > against the imposition of an Islamic order.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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