Gua kagak pernah secara explisit menyebut mobil-mobil mewah seperti yang lu lakukan. Peduli amat dengan orang-orang yang memilikinya, karena itu urusan pribadi orang. Hak orang untuk punya dan yang pasti duitnya bukan dari lu.
--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@...> wrote: > > Dan lu kaing2 gua terobsesi oleh mobil mewah. Dasar mulut lobang taik lu ini. > > > > > > >________________________________ > > From: Teddy S. <teddyr@...> > >To: [email protected] > >Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 4:45 AM > >Subject: [proletar] Re: Definisi untuk mobil mewah > > > > > > > >Terjemahan dari google karena takutnya kesulitan menterjemahkan: > > > >>> Ada mobil ultra-tinggi kinerja dari "merek eksotis" yang juga melebihi US > >>> $ 100.000, tetapi belum tentu dikategorikan sebagai mobil mewah, seperti > >>> sebagai mobil sport dari Ferrari, Lamborghini dan Porsche, meskipun > >>> Porsche Panamera bersaing dalam kemewahan high-end / ukuran penuh > >>> kategori mewah. > >>> > > > >--- In [email protected], "Teddy S." <teddyr@> wrote: > >> > >> Sudah terbukti anda yang dungu tapi tidak mau langsung mengaku dan orang > >> yang berotak busuk, nista lagi menjijikan adalah orang yang > >> fikiran-fikirannya saling bertentangan dan hanya mementingkan glorifikasi > >> pribadi sendiri. > >> > >> Baca dengan cermat DEFINISI mobil mewah di mana unsur HARGA bukanlah > >> satu-satunya kriteria. Semua orang normal akan tahu bahwa Ferrari itu merk > >> sebuah mobil sport. > >> > >> Kalau memang anda cermerlang tentunya anda akan mampu merubah definisi > >> yang diberikan WIKIPEDIA hingga WIKIPEDIA mau meralat dan memasukan > >> Ferrari sebagai salah satu mobil yang termasuk dalam klasifikasi mobil > >> mewah. Saya tantang anda untuk melakukan hal itu terhadap WIKIPEDIA. > >> > >> Sekali lagi untuk yang diragukan apakah mereka punya mata atau cuma baso > >> doang. > >> > >> > > There are ultra-high performance cars from "exotic brands" that also > >> > > exceed US$100,000, but would not necessarily be categorized as luxury > >> > > automobiles, such as the sports cars from Ferrari, Lamborghini and > >> > > Porsche, although the Porsche Panamera does compete in the high-end > >> > > luxury/full-size luxury category. > >> > > > >> > >> > >> --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > >> > > >> > Saya kutip, tanpa komentar karena begitu jelas dungunya, referensi > >> > Teddy yang > >> > adalah manusia oportunis berotak busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan ini > >> > tentang mobil mewah: > >> > > >> > "Dengan demikian bisa dikatakan Ferrari TIDAK termasuk kedalam kelas > >> > mobil > >> > mewah, walau harganya sendiri relatif mahal. " > >> > > >> > --- In [email protected], "Teddy S." <teddyr@> wrote: > >> > > > >> > > Aneh bin ajaib kalau ada orang yang merasa dirinya demikian pintar dan > >> > > rajin menggugel dalam hal-hal lain, tapi masih ngotot dengan > >> > > definisinya sendiri atas "mobil-mobil mewah". > >> > > > >> > > Mumpung masih pagi dan ada sedikit waktu, jadi bolehlah sedikit > >> > > berbelas kasihan meluangkan waktu untuk membantu membuka mata. > >> > > > >> > > --- > >> > > > >> > > Luxury vehicle is a marketing term for a vehicle that provides luxury > >> > > â" pleasant or desirable features beyond strict necessityâ"at > >> > > increased expense (see: definition of luxury). The term suggests a > >> > > vehicle with greater equipment, performance, construction precision, > >> > > comfort, design ingenuity, technological innovation, or features that > >> > > convey brand image, cachet, status, or prestigeâ"or any other > >> > > discretionary feature or combination of features. > >> > > > >> > > Luxury market segments > >> > > > >> > > Premium compact segment > >> > > The premium compact segment[clarification needed] or small-luxury > >> > > class is relatively new, having been initiated by several European > >> > > brands in the mid-2000s, and constitute the least expensive offerings > >> > > in their lineups. These cars are targeted at a niche market of young > >> > > customers who have a more refined taste in their automobiles and the > >> > > means to pay for them.[citation needed] By offering a smaller, > >> > > lighter, more fuel-efficient, and less expensive vehicle, this serves > >> > > to introduce a younger customer to the luxury marque, in hopes of > >> > > retaining the coveted customer loyalty.[citation needed] This includes > >> > > the Audi A3, BMW 1 Series, Lexus CT, and Mercedes-Benz B-Class. > >> > > > >> > > Premium compacts may share components with mass market cars from the > >> > > marque's parent company (the A3), and/or have less sophisticated > >> > > platforms compared to upmarket vehicles in the lineup (such as the > >> > > B-Class). The body style tends to be a hatchback or compact wagon, > >> > > previously associated with economy cars but regaining popularity in > >> > > the United States for its afforded utility. The luxury branding and > >> > > style, high-quality interior materials, wide range of convenience > >> > > features, and performance powertrains are key to distinguishing them > >> > > from mass market equivalents (one mistake made by the Cadillac > >> > > Cimarron) and making these appeal to consumers. > >> > > > >> > > The classification varies, for instance Consumer Guide Automotive in > >> > > the US considers the Audi A3 and A4 as part of the premium compact > >> > > segment due to similar size and MSRP, though these are known in Europe > >> > > as a small family car and a compact executive car, respectively. > >> > > > >> > > Entry-level luxury/compact executive cars > >> > > The entry-level luxury category is also known as the compact executive > >> > > car in Britain and (Mittelklasse in German). In the US, this segment > >> > > mostly includes the bottom vehicles in the line-up of luxury brands as > >> > > well as the top-of-the-line models of some non-luxury brands. > >> > > Dimensionally, compact executive cars are smaller than mid-size/large > >> > > family cars, and sometimes even smaller than compact cars. Mass market > >> > > compact cars typically use the economical front wheel drive transverse > >> > > engine layout, well suited to the inline-4 engine, which also > >> > > maximizes interior room. Several compact executive cars are rear-wheel > >> > > drive with longitudinal engines, for improved stability and handling, > >> > > and in order to accommodate the larger size of higher-performance > >> > > engines (straight-6, V6, rarely V8), with four-wheel drive often being > >> > > available. Compact executive cars also tend have more complicated > >> > > independent suspensions, sportier transmissions, and high revolution > >> > > engines that may require premium gasoline. The more complex powertrain > >> > > and mechanical layouts of compact executive cars comes at increased > >> > > cost and reduced interior passenger and trunk space. > >> > > Compact executive cars include the Volvo S60, Acura TSX, Lexus IS, BMW > >> > > 3 Series, Audi A4, and Mercedes-Benz C-Class which particularly > >> > > emphasize sporty handling. > >> > > Other vehicles such as the Lexus ES, Acura TL, Chrysler 300, and Buick > >> > > LaCrosse are also considered entry-level luxury in the United States > >> > > and Canada, being similar in price to the BMW 3 Series and > >> > > Mercedes-Benz C-Class. However, the ES, TL, and LaCrosse are not sold > >> > > in Europe and do not fall under European luxury classifications. The > >> > > ES and TL actually began as badge engineered versions of the midsize > >> > > Toyota Camry and Honda Accord, respectively, retaining the front wheel > >> > > drive transverse engine layout, whereas Toyota's current Lexus IS does > >> > > not share a platform with mass market Toyota cars. The ES and TL are > >> > > not considered executive cars either, despite similar dimensions, > >> > > since executive cars usually emphasize higher performance, often being > >> > > rear-wheel drive with longitudinal engines. The present iterations of > >> > > the ES and LaCrosse emphasize "comfortable, reasonably priced luxury", > >> > > while the TL has recently been targeted at the entry-level luxury > sport market. > >> > > Recently, the entry-level luxury has been very competitive, and there > >> > > has been price-overlapping with well-equipped non-luxury cars. The > >> > > bestselling vehicles of the marque are frequently compact executive > >> > > cars, such as the BMW 3 Series that makes up 40% of the vehicles that > >> > > BMW sells worldwide. > >> > > > >> > > Mid-luxury/executive cars > >> > > The mid-luxury segment are commonly referred to as executive cars in > >> > > Britain, Obere Mittelklasse in German, and Grandes Routières in > >> > > French. Examples include the Volvo S80, BMW 5 Series, Mercedes-Benz > >> > > E-Class, and Jaguar XF > >> > > Although having similar dimensions to mid-size cars and large family > >> > > cars, executive cars are engineered and positioned as premium vehicles > >> > > with better performance and technology amenities. There are also > >> > > higher development and production costs, as many well-known mid-luxury > >> > > cars use the longitudinal (usually front engine rear wheel drive > >> > > layout) engine mounting which affords space for powerful engines such > >> > > as a V8, instead of the more economical transverse engine layout of > >> > > mass market cars which are restricted to inline-4 or V6. Executive > >> > > cars usually have lower sales and production volumes compared to > >> > > mid-size cars and large family cars, as base trims with less equipment > >> > > and smaller engines are not sold in U.S. and Canadian markets. Also > >> > > due to the problem of steep depreciation, especially concerning cars > >> > > from less prestigious brands, most executive cars are produced by > >> > > marques that specialize in larger/more expensive vehicles. > >> > > Particularly in > the United States, the mid-luxury segment is dominated by Mercedes-Benz and > BMW, as executive cars from lesser-known manufacturers such as Citroën and > Infiniti have not had much success. > >> > > Vehicles in this segment include the mid-range models of several > >> > > luxury car manufacturers. There are also some flagship sedans in this > >> > > segment, such as the Acura RL and Infiniti M. Executive cars such as > >> > > the BMW 5 Series are crucial to a luxury automaker's bottom line, and > >> > > although not the highest-selling model, they generate a significant > >> > > amount of profits due to the lucrative technology options. > >> > > > >> > > High-end luxury/full-size luxury cars > >> > > Also known as full-size luxury cars, grand saloons, or premium large > >> > > cars, while "Oberklasse" is used in Germany. Many of these are the > >> > > marque's showcases for the newest automotive technology. Several > >> > > nameplates also offer long-wheelbase versions that offer additional > >> > > rear legroom and amenities. Full-size luxury cars sold in Canada and > >> > > the U.S. typically have mid-displacement V8 engines, though recently > >> > > some marques have offered six cylinder powerplants but without much > >> > > success. > >> > > Vehicles in this category include some of the models from the flagship > >> > > lines of luxury car brands. Examples include the Audi A8, BMW 7 > >> > > Series, Jaguar XJ, Lexus LS, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen > >> > > Phaeton, and in the US, the Lincoln Town Car and Cadillac DTS. > >> > > > >> > > Ultra-luxury cars > >> > > R.L. Polk and Company, a global automotive information and marketing > >> > > firm that provides solutions to automotive and related industries, has > >> > > defined the term "super luxury" segment for luxury cars costing more > >> > > than US$100,000. > >> > > This bracket includes the entire lineup of Rolls Royce, Bentley, Aston > >> > > Martin, Maybach, and Maserati, as these marques do not offer > >> > > lower-priced offerings in the entry-level luxury or mid-luxury > >> > > segments like more mainstream luxury brands like BMW and Mercedes-Benz. > >> > > Rolls Royce and Bentley have attempted to move downmarket somewhat > >> > > with offerings priced considerably lower than their traditional > >> > > offerings (Rolls Royce Phantom and Bentley Mulsanne) such as the Rolls > >> > > Royce Ghost and the Bentley Continental GT, creating what Car and > >> > > Driver describes as the "entry-opulent segment". Bentley, Maybach, and > >> > > Rolls-Royce vehicles share platforms and engines with other luxury > >> > > brands from their parent auto company, however Rolls-Royce and Bentley > >> > > are assembled in England (separate from the rest of BMW and Volkswagen > >> > > Group's production plants) and this "exclusivity" has made these > >> > > British marques a sales success. By comparison, Maybachs are built > >> > > alongside the Mercedes-Benz S-Class flagship sedan which has explained > >> > > why it has not fared well in the market, furthermore the Maybach's > >> > > pedigree was virtually unknown outside of Germany unlike its British > >> > > rivals which have long enjoyed renown worldwide. A Bentley executive > >> > > was > quoted as saying "that the brand's exclusivity, history and obsessive luxury > help to convince customers that a Bentley is worth the price" which is at > least twice that of a flagship luxury car from BMW or Mercedes-Benz. > >> > > The top-performing variants of flagship cars from Audi, BMW, and > >> > > Mercedes-Benz are often included here as well. They often have > >> > > 12-cylinder (usually V12) engines for great refinement and smoothness, > >> > > even though contemporary V8 engines can make similar output while > >> > > being less expensive. While BMW sells far fewer V12-engined 7-Series > >> > > vehicles than V8 versions, the V12 retains popularity in the US, > >> > > China, and Russia, as well as maintaining the marque's prestige in the > >> > > luxury vehicle market segment. These ultra-luxury trims also feature > >> > > standard luxury and technology features that would be considered > >> > > optional on their V8 siblings. > >> > > > >> > > There are ultra-high performance cars from "exotic brands" that also > >> > > exceed US$100,000, but would not necessarily be categorized as luxury > >> > > automobiles, such as the sports cars from Ferrari, Lamborghini and > >> > > Porsche, although the Porsche Panamera does compete in the high-end > >> > > luxury/full-size luxury category. > >> > > > >> > > --- > >> > > > >> > > Jadi berdasarkan informasi yang diberikan oleh WIKIPEDIA, Toyota > >> > > bukanlah merk mobil mewah (baca lagi definisinya di atas) untuk kelas > >> > > mobil mewah Toyota punya merk sendiri, yaitu L.... (cari sendiri > >> > > jawabnya, jangan mau disuapin aja). > >> > > > >> > > Berdasarkan pernyataan WIKIPEDIA pada > >> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxury_vehicle: > >> > > There are ultra-high performance cars from "exotic brands" that also > >> > > exceed US$100,000, but would not necessarily be categorized as luxury > >> > > automobiles, such as the sports cars from Ferrari, Lamborghini and > >> > > Porsche, although the Porsche Panamera does compete in the high-end > >> > > luxury/full-size luxury category. > >> > > > >> > > Dengan demikian bisa dikatakan Ferrari TIDAK termasuk kedalam kelas > >> > > mobil mewah, walau harganya sendiri relatif mahal. Saat dulu > >> > > berdiskusi dengan johny, kami sedang memperbincangkan kenikmatan > >> > > berkendaraan dengan akselerasi tinggi, bukannya memperbincangkan mobil > >> > > mewah. Baca lagi itu tulisan. Mengutip kata-kata guru wanita SMA kami > >> > > di Bandung dulu (kebetulan beliau berdarah Ambon) yang mengajar > >> > > pelajaran bahasa Jerman: "Meneer, itu mata apa baso, Meneer?" > >> > > > >> > > Gaploki kepala sendiri 10 kali karena sudah membuang waku orang untuk > >> > > menerangkan sesuatu yang bisa dicari sendiri. > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! 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