Bilang aja lu pengecut.
>________________________________ > From: Teddy S. <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 1:24 PM >Subject: [proletar] Re: Definisi untuk mobil mewah (Teddy bangsat itu, >katanya, tidak peduli..) > > > >Gua sudah bilang agama itu urusan pribadi. Mau gua jadi pengikut aliran Baha'i >juga urusan gua sendiri, lu kok repot amat. > >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@...> wrote: >> >> Padahal si Teddy itu ga berani bilang apa agamanya saking pengecutnya, >> bisa2nya dia bilang orang lain sbg pengecut. >> >> >> >> >> >________________________________ >> > From: Bukan Pedanda <bukan.pedanda@...> >> >To: [email protected] >> >Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 3:35 AM >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Definisi untuk mobil mewah (Teddy bangsat itu, >> >katanya, tidak peduli..) >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >Persis kayak Roman Proteus yang sedeng: item abu, katanya, adalah >> >pengecut... >> > >> >Makin jelas bahwa memang banyak persamaan antara Teddy ini dengan orang >> >Islam disini... >> > >> >--- In [email protected], "Teddy S." <teddyr@> wrote: >> >> >> >> Pengecut!!! (ala film-film Amerika dengan diiringi nada-nada dari lagu >> >> kebangsaan Perancis, La Marseillaise). >> >> >> >> >> >> --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > Hehehe ... gua sih ga heran kalo si Teddy bisa galak dan buas kalo >> >> > ngebela kepentingannya sendiri. Anjing jg bisa galak kalo tulangnya mau >> >> > diambil anjing lain. >> >> > >> >> > Tp si Teddy ini lebih rendah dr anjing krn ga tau malu padahal anjing >> >> > itu mash tahu malu. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >________________________________ >> >> > > From: Teddy S. <teddyr@> >> >> > >To: [email protected] >> >> > >Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 3:00 AM >> >> > >Subject: [proletar] Re: Definisi untuk mobil mewah (Teddy bangsat itu, >> >> > >katanya, tidak peduli..) >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >Apakah pejabat tersebut menyadarinya? Itu perbuatan yang sama >> >> > >sia-sianya dengan membenturkan kepala sendiri ke tembok. Saat saya >> >> > >dulu berurusan dengan pawai Pemilu Partai Golkar, rombongan tersebut >> >> > >saya kejar hingga ke markas mereka di Menteng, Jakarta. Saya temui >> >> > >kepala rombongan mereka, saya jelaskan masalahnya dan saya tuntut >> >> > >permohonan maaf dengan memberikan nama dan alamat di mana sang kepala >> >> > >rombongan berjanji untuk mengirim orang ke rumah. Itu contoh yang >> >> > >langsung bisa dirasakan pejabat terkait. Protege anda ini luar biasa >> >> > >pengecutnya. >> >> > > >> >> > >Satu hal, saya di sini bekerja dan bisa dikatakan kontribusi saya >> >> > >melebihi semua fasilitas yang kami terima. Sebetulnya saya lebih >> >> > >menghendaki sistem perpajakan seperti di AS berlaku di Australia di >> >> > >mana potongan pajak jauh lebih rendah. >> >> > > >> >> > >Simpan kata-kata busuk anda bagi orang-orang yang ongkang-ongkang kaki >> >> > >tanpa bekerja dengan memanfaatkan uang pajak orang banyak. >> >> > > >> >> > >--- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> >> >> > >wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> Pertama: menolak undangan bedebah, seerti yagn dilakukan item abu >> >> > >> itu artinya tidak berdiam diri dihadapan kejahatan yang dilakukan >> >> > >> bedebah itu. >> >> > >> >> >> > >> Kedua: sepanjang yang menyangkut kegiatan saya sejak tahun 1972 >> >> > >> hingga Orde Naru jatuh, saya bisa bilang, disamping mendiang Ernst >> >> > >> Utrecht dan sahabat saya Lim, saya adalah orang Indonesia yang dari >> >> > >> negeri Belanda yang ikut mendukung usaha orang di Indonesia >> >> > >> menjatuhkan Orde Baru. >> >> > >> >> >> > >> Saya tidak sekedar bersenang-senang di negeri orang menikmati >> >> > >> jaminan sosial dan jaminan ksehatan yagn aduhai seperti anda yagn >> >> > >> adalah manusia oportunis yang bertabiat busuk, nista lagi >> >> > >> menjijikkan. >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> --- In [email protected], "Teddy S." <teddyr@> wrote: >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > Ha ha ha. >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > Tidak datang memenuhi undangan dan membenturkan kepala sendiri ke >> >> > >> > tembok itu sama-sama tak ada artinya. >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > Coba anda bercermin diri dan melihat apakah ada perubahan besar >> >> > >> > yang telah terjadi di Indonesia yang merupakan hasil "perjuangan" >> >> > >> > anda selama ini? >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > Di sini semuanya tidak gratis dan malahan saya masih menyumbang >> >> > >> > orang lain. Sementara ada cukup banyak yang menjadi 'dole >> >> > >> > bludgers' yang sebagiannya enak-enak berselancar tiap harinya. >> >> > >> > Anda kira orang-orang ini pantas menerima santunan? >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> >> >> > >> > wrote: >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > "item abu" menyatakan pendapatnya dengan tidak datang memenuhi >> >> > >> > > undangan yang disampaikan kepadanya.. >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > Ini satu. >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > Yagn kedua: anda itu oportunis busuk, nisgtfa lagi menjijikkan >> >> > >> > > karena anda enak-enak hidup di negeri yang punya jaminan sosial >> >> > >> > > dan jaminan kesehatan yagn aduhai, hasil perjuangan orang yang >> >> > >> > > peduli akan kesenjangan sosial, lalua nda bicara tentang mobil >> >> > >> > > mewah dan anda tidak peduli dengan kejahatan yang dilakukan oleh >> >> > >> > > para bedebah yang menjarah khasanah negara Indonsia - sembari >> >> > >> > > merek menghina korban jarahannnnya yang jadi melarat dengan >> >> > >> > > petatagng petiting dengan mobil mewah hasil jarahannya. >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > Anda itu betulk-betul adalah bangsat oppotunis busuk, nista lagi >> >> > >> > > menjijikkan. >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > --- In [email protected], "Teddy S." <teddyr@> wrote: >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > > > Tidak usah jauh-jauh, tuh protege satu-satunya kebanggan anda >> >> > >> > > > tidak berani mengungkapkan pendapatnya sendiri pada tetangga >> >> > >> > > > yang tinggal di depan rumahnya. Itu yang jelas-jelas langkah >> >> > >> > > > yang merupakan feedback langsung dan mungkin, ini sih masih >> >> > >> > > > mungkin bisa memberikan perubahan. >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > > > Apa haknya saya mencampuri yang bukan wewenang saya karena >> >> > >> > > > mereka tidak mewakili saya? Anda mau mencampuri, maka itu >> >> > >> > > > urusan anda sendiri. >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > > > Saya membayar restribusi untuk semua fasilitas yang saya dan >> >> > >> > > > ibu saya terima di Australia. Kalau dihitung hingga dengan >> >> > >> > > > sen-sen yang dikeluarkan, maka kontribusi saya selama ini >> >> > >> > > > masih lebih banyak daripada nilai fasilitas yang didapat. Jadi >> >> > >> > > > ini tidak gratis dan saya malah menyumbang untuk orang lain >> >> > >> > > > selama ini. >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > > > Jadi fasilitas ini tidak gratis dan saya membayar penuh. >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > > > --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" >> >> > >> > > > <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: >> >> > >> > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > Betul-betul bajingan tengik. >> >> > >> > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > Betul-betul bangsat keparat. >> >> > >> > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > Betul-betul manusia oportunis bertabiat busuk, nista lagi >> >> > >> > > > > menjijikkan. >> >> > >> > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > Bukan urusannya, katanya, pejabat Indonesia menjarah >> >> > >> > > > > khasanah negara Indonesia dan menjadikan Indonesia dedel >> >> > >> > > > > duwel lalu menghina korban jarahannnya yang >> >> > >> > > > > dimelaratkannnya sembari petatang petiting pamer mobil >> >> > >> > > > > mewah dan pamer kekayaan.. >> >> > >> > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > Saat dia, Teddy, menikmati jaminan kesehatan yang aduhai di >> >> > >> > > > > Austrlia, hasil perjuangan orang Australia yang seperti item >> >> > >> > > > > abu peduli terhadap kesenjangan sosial. >> >> > >> > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > Selanjutnya: tidak peduli dengan adanya kejahatan yang >> >> > >> > > > > dilakukan pejabat bedebah di Indonesia itu hakekatnya >> >> > >> > > > > berpihak kepada pejabat penjahat itu. >> >> > >> > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > --- In [email protected], "Teddy S." <teddyr@> wrote: >> >> > >> > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > Ada perbedaan besar antara berfihak dan tidak peduli. >> >> > >> > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" >> >> > >> > > > > > <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: >> >> > >> > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > Asyik... >> >> > >> > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > Sekarang Teddy berpihak kepada penguasa bedebah di >> >> > >> > > > > > > Indonesia yang petatang petiting pamer hasil jarahan >> >> > >> > > > > > > mereka... >> >> > >> > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > Dan di Indonesia mobil mahal itu adalah sinonim dengan >> >> > >> > > > > > > mobil mewah... >> >> > >> > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Teddy S." <teddyr@> >> >> > >> > > > > > > wrote: >> >> > >> > > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > Gawat, si belegug ini kagak bisa menyimak. >> >> > >> > > > > > > > Lu jelas-jelas terobsesi dengan mobil-mobil mewah di >> >> > >> > > > > > > > mana lu punya definisi sendiri untuk yang namanya >> >> > >> > > > > > > > mobil-mobil mewah. Buat lu asal harganya relatif >> >> > >> > > > > > > > mahal, maka itu pastilah mobil mewah. Padahal >> >> > >> > > > > > > > mobil-mobil pejabat yang lu recokin itu tidak termasuk >> >> > >> > > > > > > > kategori mobil-mobil mewah dalam definisi standar >> >> > >> > > > > > > > seperti yang disebutkan dalam WIKIPEDIA. >> >> > >> > > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > Gua dalam hal ini tidak terlibat. Hak sang pejabat >> >> > >> > > > > > > > untuk punya mobil apapun juga. Gua sih sama sekali >> >> > >> > > > > > > > tidak peduli karena bukan urusan gua. >> >> > >> > > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> >> >> > >> > > > > > > > wrote: >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > Hehehe.. si keparat Teddy ini muter2 lidah dan >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > nambah dosanya dgn bikin fitnah baru. >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > Gua cuma minta si Teddy ngebuktikan ocehannya >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > sendiri, lalu si Teddy ngoceh seolah2 gua pernah >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > ngelarang dia make duitnya sendiri. Kapan tuh gua >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > pernah ngelarang si Teddy make duitnya sendiri >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > sesuka hatinya? Yg gua bilang adalah si Teddy adalah >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > bajingan rakus dan serakah, bajingan yg ga peduli >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > dgn orang lain, bukan ngelarang si Teddy make duit >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > sesuka hatinya. >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > Udah jelas si Teddy ini ga bisa ngebuktikan >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > ocehannya, tp dasar bajingan ga tau malu, dia msh ga >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > mau ngaku bhw mulutnya adalah lobang taik, padahal >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > dia sendiri yg bilang kalo orang ga bisa ngebuktikan >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > omongannya, maka ybs itu bermulut lobang taik. >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > Emang tuh, dr mulut anjing ga akan tumbuh gading. >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >________________________________ >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > From: Teddy S. <teddyr@> >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >To: [email protected] >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 7:03 AM >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >Subject: [proletar] Re: Definisi untuk mobil mewah >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >Gua kagak pernah secara explisit menyebut >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >mobil-mobil mewah seperti yang lu lakukan. Peduli >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >amat dengan orang-orang yang memilikinya, karena >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >itu urusan pribadi orang. Hak orang untuk punya dan >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >yang pasti duitnya bukan dari lu. >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >--- In [email protected], item abu >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > ><itemabu@> wrote: >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> Dan lu kaing2 gua terobsesi oleh mobil mewah. >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> Dasar mulut lobang taik lu ini. >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >________________________________ >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > From: Teddy S. <teddyr@> >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >To: [email protected] >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 4:45 AM >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Definisi untuk mobil >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >mewah >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >ÃÆ'‚ >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >Terjemahan dari google karena takutnya kesulitan >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >menterjemahkan: >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >>> Ada mobil ultra-tinggi kinerja dari "merek >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >>> eksotis" yang juga melebihi US $ 100.000, >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >>> tetapi belum tentu dikategorikan sebagai >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >>> mobil mewah, seperti sebagai mobil sport dari >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >>> Ferrari, Lamborghini dan Porsche, meskipun >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >>> Porsche Panamera bersaing dalam kemewahan >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >>> high-end / ukuran penuh kategori mewah. >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >>> >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >--- In [email protected], "Teddy S." >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> ><teddyr@> wrote: >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> Sudah terbukti anda yang dungu tapi tidak mau >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> langsung mengaku dan orang yang berotak busuk, >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> nista lagi menjijikan adalah orang yang >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> fikiran-fikirannya saling bertentangan dan >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> hanya mementingkan glorifikasi pribadi sendiri. >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> Baca dengan cermat DEFINISI mobil mewah di >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> mana unsur HARGA bukanlah satu-satunya >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> kriteria. Semua orang normal akan tahu bahwa >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> Ferrari itu merk sebuah mobil sport. >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> Kalau memang anda cermerlang tentunya anda >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> akan mampu merubah definisi yang diberikan >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> WIKIPEDIA hingga WIKIPEDIA mau meralat dan >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> memasukan Ferrari sebagai salah satu mobil >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> yang termasuk dalam klasifikasi mobil mewah. >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> Saya tantang anda untuk melakukan hal itu >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> terhadap WIKIPEDIA. >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> Sekali lagi untuk yang diragukan apakah mereka >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> punya mata atau cuma baso doang. >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > There are ultra-high performance cars from >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > "exotic brands" that also exceed >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > US$100,000, but would not necessarily be >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > categorized as luxury automobiles, such as >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the sports cars from Ferrari, Lamborghini >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > and Porsche, although the Porsche Panamera >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > does compete in the high-end >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > luxury/full-size luxury category. >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> --- In [email protected], "Bukan >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > Saya kutip, tanpa komentar karena begitu >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > jelas dungunya, referensi Teddy yang >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > adalah manusia oportunis berotak busuk, >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > nista lagi menjijikkan ini tentang mobil >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > mewah: >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > "Dengan demikian bisa dikatakan Ferrari >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > TIDAK termasuk kedalam kelas mobil >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > mewah, walau harganya sendiri relatif mahal. >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > " >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > --- In [email protected], "Teddy S." >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > <teddyr@> wrote: >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Aneh bin ajaib kalau ada orang yang merasa >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > dirinya demikian pintar dan rajin >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > menggugel dalam hal-hal lain, tapi masih >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > ngotot dengan definisinya sendiri atas >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > "mobil-mobil mewah". >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Mumpung masih pagi dan ada sedikit waktu, >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > jadi bolehlah sedikit berbelas kasihan >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > meluangkan waktu untuk membantu membuka >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > mata. >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > --- >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Luxury vehicle is a marketing term for a >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > vehicle that provides luxury >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > ÃÆ'¢â‚¬" pleasant or >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > desirable features beyond strict >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > necessityÃÆ'¢â‚¬"at >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > increased expense (see: definition of >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > luxury). The term suggests a vehicle with >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > greater equipment, performance, >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > construction precision, comfort, design >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > ingenuity, technological innovation, or >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > features that convey brand image, cachet, >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > status, or >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > prestigeÃÆ'¢â‚¬"or any >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > other discretionary feature or combination >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > of features. >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Luxury market segments >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Premium compact segment >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > The premium compact segment[clarification >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > needed] or small-luxury class is >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > relatively new, having been initiated by >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > several European brands in the mid-2000s, >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > and constitute the least expensive >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > offerings in their lineups. These cars are >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > targeted at a niche market of young >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > customers who have a more refined taste in >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > their automobiles and the means to pay for >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > them.[citation needed] By offering a >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > smaller, lighter, more fuel-efficient, and >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > less expensive vehicle, this serves to >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > introduce a younger customer to the luxury >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > marque, in hopes of retaining the coveted >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > customer loyalty.[citation needed] This >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > includes the Audi A3, BMW 1 Series, Lexus >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > CT, and Mercedes-Benz B-Class. >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Premium compacts may share components with >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > mass market cars from the marque's parent >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > company (the A3), and/or have less >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > sophisticated platforms compared to >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > upmarket vehicles in the lineup (such as >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the B-Class). The body style tends to be a >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > hatchback or compact wagon, previously >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > associated with economy cars but regaining >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > popularity in the United States for its >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > afforded utility. The luxury branding and >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > style, high-quality interior materials, >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > wide range of convenience features, and >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > performance powertrains are key to >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > distinguishing them from mass market >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > equivalents (one mistake made by the >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Cadillac Cimarron) and making these appeal >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > to consumers. >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > The classification varies, for instance >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Consumer Guide Automotive in the US >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > considers the Audi A3 and A4 as part of >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the premium compact segment due to similar >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > size and MSRP, though these are known in >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Europe as a small family car and a compact >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > executive car, respectively. >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Entry-level luxury/compact executive cars >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > The entry-level luxury category is also >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > known as the compact executive car in >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Britain and (Mittelklasse in German). In >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the US, this segment mostly includes the >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > bottom vehicles in the line-up of luxury >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > brands as well as the top-of-the-line >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > models of some non-luxury brands. >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Dimensionally, compact executive cars are >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > smaller than mid-size/large family cars, >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > and sometimes even smaller than compact >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > cars. Mass market compact cars typically >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > use the economical front wheel drive >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > transverse engine layout, well suited to >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the inline-4 engine, which also maximizes >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > interior room. Several compact executive >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > cars are rear-wheel drive with >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > longitudinal engines, for improved >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > stability and handling, and in order to >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > accommodate the larger size of >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > higher-performance engines (straight-6, >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > V6, rarely V8), with four-wheel drive >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > often being available. Compact executive >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > cars also tend have more complicated >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > independent suspensions, sportier >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > transmissions, and high revolution engines >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > that may require premium gasoline. The >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > more complex powertrain and mechanical >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > layouts of compact executive cars comes at >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > increased cost and reduced interior >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > passenger and trunk space. >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Compact executive cars include the Volvo >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > S60, Acura TSX, Lexus IS, BMW 3 Series, >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Audi A4, and Mercedes-Benz C-Class which >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > particularly emphasize sporty handling. >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Other vehicles such as the Lexus ES, Acura >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > TL, Chrysler 300, and Buick LaCrosse are >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > also considered entry-level luxury in the >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > United States and Canada, being similar in >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > price to the BMW 3 Series and >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Mercedes-Benz C-Class. However, the ES, >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > TL, and LaCrosse are not sold in Europe >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > and do not fall under European luxury >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > classifications. The ES and TL actually >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > began as badge engineered versions of the >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > midsize Toyota Camry and Honda Accord, >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > respectively, retaining the front wheel >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > drive transverse engine layout, whereas >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Toyota's current Lexus IS does not share a >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > platform with mass market Toyota cars. The >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > ES and TL are not considered executive >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > cars either, despite similar dimensions, >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > since executive cars usually emphasize >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > higher performance, often being rear-wheel >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > drive with longitudinal engines. The >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > present iterations of the ES and LaCrosse >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > emphasize "comfortable, reasonably priced >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > luxury", while the TL has recently been >> targeted at >> >> > the entry-level >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > luxury >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> sport market. >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Recently, the entry-level luxury has been >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > very competitive, and there has been >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > price-overlapping with well-equipped >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > non-luxury cars. The bestselling vehicles >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > of the marque are frequently compact >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > executive cars, such as the BMW 3 Series >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > that makes up 40% of the vehicles that BMW >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > sells worldwide. >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Mid-luxury/executive cars >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > The mid-luxury segment are commonly >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > referred to as executive cars in Britain, >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Obere Mittelklasse in German, and Grandes >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > RoutiÃÆ'Æ'¨res in French. >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Examples include the Volvo S80, BMW 5 >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Series, Mercedes-Benz E-Class, and Jaguar >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > XF >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Although having similar dimensions to >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > mid-size cars and large family cars, >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > executive cars are engineered and >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > positioned as premium vehicles with better >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > performance and technology amenities. >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > There are also higher development and >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > production costs, as many well-known >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > mid-luxury cars use the longitudinal >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > (usually front engine rear wheel drive >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > layout) engine mounting which affords >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > space for powerful engines such as a V8, >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > instead of the more economical transverse >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > engine layout of mass market cars which >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > are restricted to inline-4 or V6. >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Executive cars usually have lower sales >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > and production volumes compared to >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > mid-size cars and large family cars, as >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > base trims with less equipment and smaller >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > engines are not sold in U.S. and Canadian >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > markets. Also due to the problem of steep >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > depreciation, especially concerning cars >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > from less prestigious brands, most >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > executive cars are produced by marques >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > that specialize in larger/more expensive >> >> > vehicles. Particularly in >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> the United States, the mid-luxury segment is >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> dominated by Mercedes-Benz and BMW, as executive >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> cars from lesser-known manufacturers such as >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> CitroÃÆ'Æ'«n and Infiniti have not had >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> much success. >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Vehicles in this segment include the >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > mid-range models of several luxury car >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > manufacturers. There are also some >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > flagship sedans in this segment, such as >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the Acura RL and Infiniti M. Executive >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > cars such as the BMW 5 Series are crucial >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > to a luxury automaker's bottom line, and >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > although not the highest-selling model, >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > they generate a significant amount of >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > profits due to the lucrative technology >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > options. >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > High-end luxury/full-size luxury cars >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Also known as full-size luxury cars, grand >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > saloons, or premium large cars, while >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > "Oberklasse" is used in Germany. Many of >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > these are the marque's showcases for the >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > newest automotive technology. Several >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > nameplates also offer long-wheelbase >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > versions that offer additional rear >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > legroom and amenities. Full-size luxury >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > cars sold in Canada and the U.S. typically >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > have mid-displacement V8 engines, though >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > recently some marques have offered six >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > cylinder powerplants but without much >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > success. >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Vehicles in this category include some of >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the models from the flagship lines of >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > luxury car brands. Examples include the >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ, Lexus >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > LS, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Phaeton, and in the US, the Lincoln Town >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Car and Cadillac DTS. >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Ultra-luxury cars >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > R.L. Polk and Company, a global automotive >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > information and marketing firm that >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > provides solutions to automotive and >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > related industries, has defined the term >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > "super luxury" segment for luxury cars >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > costing more than US$100,000. >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > This bracket includes the entire lineup of >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Rolls Royce, Bentley, Aston Martin, >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Maybach, and Maserati, as these marques do >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > not offer lower-priced offerings in the >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > entry-level luxury or mid-luxury segments >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > like more mainstream luxury brands like >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > BMW and Mercedes-Benz. >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Rolls Royce and Bentley have attempted to >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > move downmarket somewhat with offerings >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > priced considerably lower than their >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > traditional offerings (Rolls Royce Phantom >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > and Bentley Mulsanne) such as the Rolls >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Royce Ghost and the Bentley Continental >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > GT, creating what Car and Driver describes >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > as the "entry-opulent segment". Bentley, >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Maybach, and Rolls-Royce vehicles share >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > platforms and engines with other luxury >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > brands from their parent auto company, >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > however Rolls-Royce and Bentley are >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > assembled in England (separate from the >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > rest of BMW and Volkswagen Group's >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > production plants) and this "exclusivity" >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > has made these British marques a sales >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > success. By comparison, Maybachs are built >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > alongside the Mercedes-Benz S-Class >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > flagship sedan which has explained why it >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > has not fared well in the market, >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > furthermore the Maybach's pedigree was >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > virtually unknown outside of Germany >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > unlike its British rivals which have long >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > enjoyed renown >> worldwide. A >> >> > Bentley executive was >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> quoted as saying "that the brand's exclusivity, >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> history and obsessive luxury help to convince >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> customers that a Bentley is worth the price" >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> which is at least twice that of a flagship luxury >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> car from BMW or Mercedes-Benz. >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > The top-performing variants of flagship >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > cars from Audi, BMW, and Mercedes-Benz are >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > often included here as well. They often >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > have 12-cylinder (usually V12) engines for >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > great refinement and smoothness, even >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > though contemporary V8 engines can make >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > similar output while being less expensive. >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > While BMW sells far fewer V12-engined >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > 7-Series vehicles than V8 versions, the >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > V12 retains popularity in the US, China, >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > and Russia, as well as maintaining the >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > marque's prestige in the luxury vehicle >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > market segment. These ultra-luxury trims >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > also feature standard luxury and >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > technology features that would be >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > considered optional on their V8 siblings. >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > There are ultra-high performance cars from >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > "exotic brands" that also exceed >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > US$100,000, but would not necessarily be >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > categorized as luxury automobiles, such as >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the sports cars from Ferrari, Lamborghini >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > and Porsche, although the Porsche Panamera >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > does compete in the high-end >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > luxury/full-size luxury category. >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > --- >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Jadi berdasarkan informasi yang diberikan >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > oleh WIKIPEDIA, Toyota bukanlah merk mobil >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > mewah (baca lagi definisinya di atas) >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > untuk kelas mobil mewah Toyota punya merk >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > sendiri, yaitu L.... (cari sendiri >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > jawabnya, jangan mau disuapin aja). >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Berdasarkan pernyataan WIKIPEDIA pada >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxury_vehicle: >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > There are ultra-high performance cars from >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > "exotic brands" that also exceed >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > US$100,000, but would not necessarily be >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > categorized as luxury automobiles, such as >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the sports cars from Ferrari, Lamborghini >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > and Porsche, although the Porsche Panamera >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > does compete in the high-end >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > luxury/full-size luxury category. >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Dengan demikian bisa dikatakan Ferrari >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > TIDAK termasuk kedalam kelas mobil mewah, >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > walau harganya sendiri relatif mahal. Saat >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > dulu berdiskusi dengan johny, kami sedang >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > memperbincangkan kenikmatan berkendaraan >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > dengan akselerasi tinggi, bukannya >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > memperbincangkan mobil mewah. Baca lagi >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > itu tulisan. Mengutip kata-kata guru >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > wanita SMA kami di Bandung dulu (kebetulan >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > beliau berdarah Ambon) yang mengajar >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > pelajaran bahasa Jerman: "Meneer, itu mata >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > apa baso, Meneer?" >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Gaploki kepala sendiri 10 kali karena >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > sudah membuang waku orang untuk >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > menerangkan sesuatu yang bisa dicari >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > sendiri. >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> removed] >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > >> >> > >> > > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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