Apa si Teddy jg berhak unt tutup mata atas kebejadan orang selama ybs ngejilat pantatnya?
Tutup mata atas kejahatan yg diketahuinya adalah kejahatan jg. >________________________________ > From: Bukan Pedanda <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 1:45 PM >Subject: [proletar] Re: Definisi untuk mobil mewah (Teddy bangsat itu, >katanya, tidak peduli..) > > > > > >Hak orang... > >Tidak ada yang membantah. > >Tapi hak tiap orang pula untuk menyatakan kejijikannnya terhadap sikap anda >yang nista tidak peduli terhadap ketidak adilan dan kesenjangan sosial di >Indonesia.. > >Anda itu adalah manusia oportunis bertabiat busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan. > >Kerak kenistaan. > >--- In [email protected], "Teddy S." <teddyr@...> wrote: >> >> Tentu, tidak ada yang melarang kalau lu mau mengangkat diri jadi panutan >> orang banyak. Tapi, hak azasi orang juga untuk membuat posting-posting >> dengan topik-topik yang disukainya. >> >> >> --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: >> > >> > Gua emang ga minat unt ikut2an demo atau bikin pamflet kayak sampah >> > masyarakat yg demo sambil bikin susah orang lain. Ga mutu cara kayak gitu. >> > >> > Kalo gua milih unt ngajarin orang2 di milis gimana orang hrs bersikap dan >> > ngajarin apa ajaran Islam yg benar, ga ada salahnya, bukan? >> > >> > >> > Jelas ngajarin hal beginian di milis jauh lebih baik drpd cuma sekedar >> > ngoceh soal sepakbola atau musik sambil cerita pengalaman pergi ke panti >> > pijat atau saling bersahut2an kayak beruk di hutan dan ngefitnah orang >> > kayak yg dilakukan orang2 Islam plus plus. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >________________________________ >> > > From: Bukan Pedanda <bukan.pedanda@> >> > >To: [email protected] >> > >Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 3:44 AM >> > >Subject: [proletar] Re: Definisi untuk mobil mewah (Teddy bangsat itu, >> > >katanya, tidak peduli..) >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >Tiap orang yang tidak sedungu Teddy juga akan maklum bahwa orang yang >> > >diiundang dan tidak datang tanpa penjealasan arttinya tu orang tidak >> > >bersedia datang - dan bukan berhalangan. >> > > >> > >Dan nggak kebetulan kok Teddy ini lebih senang dengan sistem perpajakan >> > >di Amerika yang juga punya jaminan sosial yang termasuk terburuk diantara >> > >negeri maju - dan nggak heran Teddy itu tidak begitu senang dengan sistem >> > >perpajakana Australia yang termasuk negeri yang punya jaminan sosial yang >> > >terbaik diantara negeri maju. >> > > >> > >Teddy itu adalah manusia serakah yang hanya memikirkan dirinya sendiri. >> > > >> > >Manusia bertabiat busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan. >> > > >> > >--- In [email protected], "Teddy S." <teddyr@> wrote: >> > >> >> > >> Apakah pejabat tersebut menyadarinya? Itu perbuatan yang sama >> > >> sia-sianya dengan membenturkan kepala sendiri ke tembok. Saat saya dulu >> > >> berurusan dengan pawai Pemilu Partai Golkar, rombongan tersebut saya >> > >> kejar hingga ke markas mereka di Menteng, Jakarta. Saya temui kepala >> > >> rombongan mereka, saya jelaskan masalahnya dan saya tuntut permohonan >> > >> maaf dengan memberikan nama dan alamat di mana sang kepala rombongan >> > >> berjanji untuk mengirim orang ke rumah. Itu contoh yang langsung bisa >> > >> dirasakan pejabat terkait. Protege anda ini luar biasa pengecutnya. >> > >> >> > >> Satu hal, saya di sini bekerja dan bisa dikatakan kontribusi saya >> > >> melebihi semua fasilitas yang kami terima. Sebetulnya saya lebih >> > >> menghendaki sistem perpajakan seperti di AS berlaku di Australia di >> > >> mana potongan pajak jauh lebih rendah. >> > >> >> > >> Simpan kata-kata busuk anda bagi orang-orang yang ongkang-ongkang kaki >> > >> tanpa bekerja dengan memanfaatkan uang pajak orang banyak. >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Pertama: menolak undangan bedebah, seerti yagn dilakukan item abu itu >> > >> > artinya tidak berdiam diri dihadapan kejahatan yang dilakukan >> > >> > bedebah itu. >> > >> > >> > >> > Kedua: sepanjang yang menyangkut kegiatan saya sejak tahun 1972 >> > >> > hingga Orde Naru jatuh, saya bisa bilang, disamping mendiang Ernst >> > >> > Utrecht dan sahabat saya Lim, saya adalah orang Indonesia yang dari >> > >> > negeri Belanda yang ikut mendukung usaha orang di Indonesia >> > >> > menjatuhkan Orde Baru. >> > >> > >> > >> > Saya tidak sekedar bersenang-senang di negeri orang menikmati jaminan >> > >> > sosial dan jaminan ksehatan yagn aduhai seperti anda yagn adalah >> > >> > manusia oportunis yang bertabiat busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > --- In [email protected], "Teddy S." <teddyr@> wrote: >> > >> > > >> > >> > > Ha ha ha. >> > >> > > >> > >> > > Tidak datang memenuhi undangan dan membenturkan kepala sendiri ke >> > >> > > tembok itu sama-sama tak ada artinya. >> > >> > > >> > >> > > Coba anda bercermin diri dan melihat apakah ada perubahan besar >> > >> > > yang telah terjadi di Indonesia yang merupakan hasil "perjuangan" >> > >> > > anda selama ini? >> > >> > > >> > >> > > Di sini semuanya tidak gratis dan malahan saya masih menyumbang >> > >> > > orang lain. Sementara ada cukup banyak yang menjadi 'dole bludgers' >> > >> > > yang sebagiannya enak-enak berselancar tiap harinya. Anda kira >> > >> > > orang-orang ini pantas menerima santunan? >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> >> > >> > > wrote: >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > "item abu" menyatakan pendapatnya dengan tidak datang memenuhi >> > >> > > > undangan yang disampaikan kepadanya.. >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > Ini satu. >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > Yagn kedua: anda itu oportunis busuk, nisgtfa lagi menjijikkan >> > >> > > > karena anda enak-enak hidup di negeri yang punya jaminan sosial >> > >> > > > dan jaminan kesehatan yagn aduhai, hasil perjuangan orang yang >> > >> > > > peduli akan kesenjangan sosial, lalua nda bicara tentang mobil >> > >> > > > mewah dan anda tidak peduli dengan kejahatan yang dilakukan oleh >> > >> > > > para bedebah yang menjarah khasanah negara Indonsia - sembari >> > >> > > > merek menghina korban jarahannnnya yang jadi melarat dengan >> > >> > > > petatagng petiting dengan mobil mewah hasil jarahannya. >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > Anda itu betulk-betul adalah bangsat oppotunis busuk, nista lagi >> > >> > > > menjijikkan. >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > --- In [email protected], "Teddy S." <teddyr@> wrote: >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > Tidak usah jauh-jauh, tuh protege satu-satunya kebanggan anda >> > >> > > > > tidak berani mengungkapkan pendapatnya sendiri pada tetangga >> > >> > > > > yang tinggal di depan rumahnya. Itu yang jelas-jelas langkah >> > >> > > > > yang merupakan feedback langsung dan mungkin, ini sih masih >> > >> > > > > mungkin bisa memberikan perubahan. >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > Apa haknya saya mencampuri yang bukan wewenang saya karena >> > >> > > > > mereka tidak mewakili saya? Anda mau mencampuri, maka itu >> > >> > > > > urusan anda sendiri. >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > Saya membayar restribusi untuk semua fasilitas yang saya dan >> > >> > > > > ibu saya terima di Australia. Kalau dihitung hingga dengan >> > >> > > > > sen-sen yang dikeluarkan, maka kontribusi saya selama ini masih >> > >> > > > > lebih banyak daripada nilai fasilitas yang didapat. Jadi ini >> > >> > > > > tidak gratis dan saya malah menyumbang untuk orang lain selama >> > >> > > > > ini. >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > Jadi fasilitas ini tidak gratis dan saya membayar penuh. >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" >> > >> > > > > <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > Betul-betul bajingan tengik. >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > Betul-betul bangsat keparat. >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > Betul-betul manusia oportunis bertabiat busuk, nista lagi >> > >> > > > > > menjijikkan. >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > Bukan urusannya, katanya, pejabat Indonesia menjarah khasanah >> > >> > > > > > negara Indonesia dan menjadikan Indonesia dedel duwel lalu >> > >> > > > > > menghina korban jarahannnya yang dimelaratkannnya sembari >> > >> > > > > > petatang petiting pamer mobil mewah dan pamer kekayaan.. >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > Saat dia, Teddy, menikmati jaminan kesehatan yang aduhai di >> > >> > > > > > Austrlia, hasil perjuangan orang Australia yang seperti item >> > >> > > > > > abu peduli terhadap kesenjangan sosial. >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > Selanjutnya: tidak peduli dengan adanya kejahatan yang >> > >> > > > > > dilakukan pejabat bedebah di Indonesia itu hakekatnya >> > >> > > > > > berpihak kepada pejabat penjahat itu. >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Teddy S." <teddyr@> wrote: >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > Ada perbedaan besar antara berfihak dan tidak peduli. >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" >> > >> > > > > > > <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > Asyik... >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > Sekarang Teddy berpihak kepada penguasa bedebah di >> > >> > > > > > > > Indonesia yang petatang petiting pamer hasil jarahan >> > >> > > > > > > > mereka... >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > Dan di Indonesia mobil mahal itu adalah sinonim dengan >> > >> > > > > > > > mobil mewah... >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Teddy S." <teddyr@> >> > >> > > > > > > > wrote: >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > Gawat, si belegug ini kagak bisa menyimak. >> > >> > > > > > > > > Lu jelas-jelas terobsesi dengan mobil-mobil mewah di >> > >> > > > > > > > > mana lu punya definisi sendiri untuk yang namanya >> > >> > > > > > > > > mobil-mobil mewah. Buat lu asal harganya relatif mahal, >> > >> > > > > > > > > maka itu pastilah mobil mewah. Padahal mobil-mobil >> > >> > > > > > > > > pejabat yang lu recokin itu tidak termasuk kategori >> > >> > > > > > > > > mobil-mobil mewah dalam definisi standar seperti yang >> > >> > > > > > > > > disebutkan dalam WIKIPEDIA. >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > Gua dalam hal ini tidak terlibat. Hak sang pejabat >> > >> > > > > > > > > untuk punya mobil apapun juga. Gua sih sama sekali >> > >> > > > > > > > > tidak peduli karena bukan urusan gua. >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> >> > >> > > > > > > > > wrote: >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > Hehehe.. si keparat Teddy ini muter2 lidah dan nambah >> > >> > > > > > > > > > dosanya dgn bikin fitnah baru. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > Gua cuma minta si Teddy ngebuktikan ocehannya >> > >> > > > > > > > > > sendiri, lalu si Teddy ngoceh seolah2 gua pernah >> > >> > > > > > > > > > ngelarang dia make duitnya sendiri. Kapan tuh gua >> > >> > > > > > > > > > pernah ngelarang si Teddy make duitnya sendiri sesuka >> > >> > > > > > > > > > hatinya? Yg gua bilang adalah si Teddy adalah >> > >> > > > > > > > > > bajingan rakus dan serakah, bajingan yg ga peduli dgn >> > >> > > > > > > > > > orang lain, bukan ngelarang si Teddy make duit sesuka >> > >> > > > > > > > > > hatinya. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > Udah jelas si Teddy ini ga bisa ngebuktikan >> > >> > > > > > > > > > ocehannya, tp dasar bajingan ga tau malu, dia msh ga >> > >> > > > > > > > > > mau ngaku bhw mulutnya adalah lobang taik, padahal >> > >> > > > > > > > > > dia sendiri yg bilang kalo orang ga bisa ngebuktikan >> > >> > > > > > > > > > omongannya, maka ybs itu bermulut lobang taik. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > Emang tuh, dr mulut anjing ga akan tumbuh gading. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > From: Teddy S. <teddyr@> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >To: [email protected] >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 7:03 AM >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >Subject: [proletar] Re: Definisi untuk mobil mewah >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >Gua kagak pernah secara explisit menyebut >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >mobil-mobil mewah seperti yang lu lakukan. Peduli >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >amat dengan orang-orang yang memilikinya, karena itu >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >urusan pribadi orang. Hak orang untuk punya dan yang >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >pasti duitnya bukan dari lu. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >wrote: >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> Dan lu kaing2 gua terobsesi oleh mobil mewah. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> Dasar mulut lobang taik lu ini. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >________________________________ >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > From: Teddy S. <teddyr@> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >To: [email protected] >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 4:45 AM >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Definisi untuk mobil mewah >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >Terjemahan dari google karena takutnya kesulitan >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >menterjemahkan: >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >>> Ada mobil ultra-tinggi kinerja dari "merek >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >>> eksotis" yang juga melebihi US $ 100.000, >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >>> tetapi belum tentu dikategorikan sebagai mobil >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >>> mewah, seperti sebagai mobil sport dari >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >>> Ferrari, Lamborghini dan Porsche, meskipun >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >>> Porsche Panamera bersaing dalam kemewahan >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >>> high-end / ukuran penuh kategori mewah. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >>> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >--- In [email protected], "Teddy S." >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> ><teddyr@> wrote: >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> Sudah terbukti anda yang dungu tapi tidak mau >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> langsung mengaku dan orang yang berotak busuk, >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> nista lagi menjijikan adalah orang yang >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> fikiran-fikirannya saling bertentangan dan >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> hanya mementingkan glorifikasi pribadi sendiri. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> Baca dengan cermat DEFINISI mobil mewah di mana >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> unsur HARGA bukanlah satu-satunya kriteria. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> Semua orang normal akan tahu bahwa Ferrari itu >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> merk sebuah mobil sport. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> Kalau memang anda cermerlang tentunya anda akan >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> mampu merubah definisi yang diberikan WIKIPEDIA >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> hingga WIKIPEDIA mau meralat dan memasukan >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> Ferrari sebagai salah satu mobil yang termasuk >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> dalam klasifikasi mobil mewah. Saya tantang >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> anda untuk melakukan hal itu terhadap WIKIPEDIA. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> Sekali lagi untuk yang diragukan apakah mereka >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> punya mata atau cuma baso doang. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > There are ultra-high performance cars from >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > "exotic brands" that also exceed >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > US$100,000, but would not necessarily be >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > categorized as luxury automobiles, such as >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the sports cars from Ferrari, Lamborghini >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > and Porsche, although the Porsche Panamera >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > does compete in the high-end >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > luxury/full-size luxury category. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> --- In [email protected], "Bukan >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > Saya kutip, tanpa komentar karena begitu >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > jelas dungunya, referensi Teddy yang >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > adalah manusia oportunis berotak busuk, nista >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > lagi menjijikkan ini tentang mobil mewah: >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > "Dengan demikian bisa dikatakan Ferrari TIDAK >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > termasuk kedalam kelas mobil >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > mewah, walau harganya sendiri relatif mahal. " >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > --- In [email protected], "Teddy S." >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > <teddyr@> wrote: >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Aneh bin ajaib kalau ada orang yang merasa >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > dirinya demikian pintar dan rajin menggugel >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > dalam hal-hal lain, tapi masih ngotot >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > dengan definisinya sendiri atas >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > "mobil-mobil mewah". >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Mumpung masih pagi dan ada sedikit waktu, >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > jadi bolehlah sedikit berbelas kasihan >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > meluangkan waktu untuk membantu membuka >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > mata. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > --- >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Luxury vehicle is a marketing term for a >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > vehicle that provides luxury â€" >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > pleasant or desirable features beyond >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > strict necessityâ€"at increased >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > expense (see: definition of luxury). The >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > term suggests a vehicle with greater >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > equipment, performance, construction >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > precision, comfort, design ingenuity, >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > technological innovation, or features that >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > convey brand image, cachet, status, or >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > prestigeâ€"or any other >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > discretionary feature or combination of >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > features. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Luxury market segments >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Premium compact segment >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > The premium compact segment[clarification >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > needed] or small-luxury class is relatively >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > new, having been initiated by several >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > European brands in the mid-2000s, and >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > constitute the least expensive offerings in >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > their lineups. These cars are targeted at a >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > niche market of young customers who have a >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > more refined taste in their automobiles and >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the means to pay for them.[citation needed] >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > By offering a smaller, lighter, more >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > fuel-efficient, and less expensive vehicle, >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > this serves to introduce a younger customer >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > to the luxury marque, in hopes of retaining >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the coveted customer loyalty.[citation >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > needed] This includes the Audi A3, BMW 1 >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Series, Lexus CT, and Mercedes-Benz B-Class. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Premium compacts may share components with >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > mass market cars from the marque's parent >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > company (the A3), and/or have less >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > sophisticated platforms compared to >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > upmarket vehicles in the lineup (such as >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the B-Class). The body style tends to be a >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > hatchback or compact wagon, previously >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > associated with economy cars but regaining >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > popularity in the United States for its >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > afforded utility. The luxury branding and >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > style, high-quality interior materials, >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > wide range of convenience features, and >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > performance powertrains are key to >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > distinguishing them from mass market >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > equivalents (one mistake made by the >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Cadillac Cimarron) and making these appeal >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > to consumers. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > The classification varies, for instance >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Consumer Guide Automotive in the US >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > considers the Audi A3 and A4 as part of the >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > premium compact segment due to similar size >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > and MSRP, though these are known in Europe >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > as a small family car and a compact >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > executive car, respectively. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Entry-level luxury/compact executive cars >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > The entry-level luxury category is also >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > known as the compact executive car in >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Britain and (Mittelklasse in German). In >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the US, this segment mostly includes the >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > bottom vehicles in the line-up of luxury >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > brands as well as the top-of-the-line >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > models of some non-luxury brands. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Dimensionally, compact executive cars are >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > smaller than mid-size/large family cars, >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > and sometimes even smaller than compact >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > cars. Mass market compact cars typically >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > use the economical front wheel drive >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > transverse engine layout, well suited to >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the inline-4 engine, which also maximizes >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > interior room. Several compact executive >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > cars are rear-wheel drive with longitudinal >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > engines, for improved stability and >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > handling, and in order to accommodate the >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > larger size of higher-performance engines >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > (straight-6, V6, rarely V8), with >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > four-wheel drive often being available. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Compact executive cars also tend have more >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > complicated independent suspensions, >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > sportier transmissions, and high revolution >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > engines that may require premium gasoline. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > The more complex powertrain and mechanical >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > layouts of compact executive cars comes at >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > increased cost and reduced interior >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > passenger and trunk space. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Compact executive cars include the Volvo >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > S60, Acura TSX, Lexus IS, BMW 3 Series, >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Audi A4, and Mercedes-Benz C-Class which >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > particularly emphasize sporty handling. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Other vehicles such as the Lexus ES, Acura >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > TL, Chrysler 300, and Buick LaCrosse are >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > also considered entry-level luxury in the >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > United States and Canada, being similar in >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > price to the BMW 3 Series and Mercedes-Benz >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > C-Class. However, the ES, TL, and LaCrosse >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > are not sold in Europe and do not fall >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > under European luxury classifications. The >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > ES and TL actually began as badge >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > engineered versions of the midsize Toyota >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Camry and Honda Accord, respectively, >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > retaining the front wheel drive transverse >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > engine layout, whereas Toyota's current >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Lexus IS does not share a platform with >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > mass market Toyota cars. The ES and TL are >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > not considered executive cars either, >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > despite similar dimensions, since executive >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > cars usually emphasize higher performance, >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > often being rear-wheel drive with >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > longitudinal engines. The present >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > iterations of the ES and LaCrosse emphasize >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > "comfortable, reasonably priced luxury", >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > while the TL has recently been targeted >> > at the entry-level >> > >> > > > > > > > > > luxury >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> sport market. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Recently, the entry-level luxury has been >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > very competitive, and there has been >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > price-overlapping with well-equipped >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > non-luxury cars. The bestselling vehicles >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > of the marque are frequently compact >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > executive cars, such as the BMW 3 Series >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > that makes up 40% of the vehicles that BMW >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > sells worldwide. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Mid-luxury/executive cars >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > The mid-luxury segment are commonly >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > referred to as executive cars in Britain, >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Obere Mittelklasse in German, and Grandes >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > RoutiÃÆ'¨res in French. Examples >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > include the Volvo S80, BMW 5 Series, >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Mercedes-Benz E-Class, and Jaguar XF >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Although having similar dimensions to >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > mid-size cars and large family cars, >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > executive cars are engineered and >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > positioned as premium vehicles with better >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > performance and technology amenities. There >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > are also higher development and production >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > costs, as many well-known mid-luxury cars >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > use the longitudinal (usually front engine >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > rear wheel drive layout) engine mounting >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > which affords space for powerful engines >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > such as a V8, instead of the more >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > economical transverse engine layout of mass >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > market cars which are restricted to >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > inline-4 or V6. Executive cars usually have >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > lower sales and production volumes compared >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > to mid-size cars and large family cars, as >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > base trims with less equipment and smaller >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > engines are not sold in U.S. and Canadian >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > markets. Also due to the problem of steep >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > depreciation, especially concerning cars >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > from less prestigious brands, most >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > executive cars are produced by marques that >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > specialize in larger/more expensive >> > vehicles. Particularly in >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> the United States, the mid-luxury segment is >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> dominated by Mercedes-Benz and BMW, as executive >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> cars from lesser-known manufacturers such as >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> CitroÃÆ'«n and Infiniti have not had much >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> success. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Vehicles in this segment include the >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > mid-range models of several luxury car >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > manufacturers. There are also some flagship >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > sedans in this segment, such as the Acura >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > RL and Infiniti M. Executive cars such as >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the BMW 5 Series are crucial to a luxury >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > automaker's bottom line, and although not >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the highest-selling model, they generate a >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > significant amount of profits due to the >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > lucrative technology options. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > High-end luxury/full-size luxury cars >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Also known as full-size luxury cars, grand >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > saloons, or premium large cars, while >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > "Oberklasse" is used in Germany. Many of >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > these are the marque's showcases for the >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > newest automotive technology. Several >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > nameplates also offer long-wheelbase >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > versions that offer additional rear legroom >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > and amenities. Full-size luxury cars sold >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > in Canada and the U.S. typically have >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > mid-displacement V8 engines, though >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > recently some marques have offered six >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > cylinder powerplants but without much >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > success. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Vehicles in this category include some of >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the models from the flagship lines of >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > luxury car brands. Examples include the >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ, Lexus LS, >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > and in the US, the Lincoln Town Car and >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Cadillac DTS. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Ultra-luxury cars >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > R.L. Polk and Company, a global automotive >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > information and marketing firm that >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > provides solutions to automotive and >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > related industries, has defined the term >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > "super luxury" segment for luxury cars >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > costing more than US$100,000. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > This bracket includes the entire lineup of >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Rolls Royce, Bentley, Aston Martin, >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Maybach, and Maserati, as these marques do >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > not offer lower-priced offerings in the >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > entry-level luxury or mid-luxury segments >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > like more mainstream luxury brands like BMW >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > and Mercedes-Benz. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Rolls Royce and Bentley have attempted to >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > move downmarket somewhat with offerings >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > priced considerably lower than their >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > traditional offerings (Rolls Royce Phantom >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > and Bentley Mulsanne) such as the Rolls >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Royce Ghost and the Bentley Continental GT, >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > creating what Car and Driver describes as >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the "entry-opulent segment". Bentley, >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Maybach, and Rolls-Royce vehicles share >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > platforms and engines with other luxury >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > brands from their parent auto company, >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > however Rolls-Royce and Bentley are >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > assembled in England (separate from the >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > rest of BMW and Volkswagen Group's >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > production plants) and this "exclusivity" >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > has made these British marques a sales >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > success. By comparison, Maybachs are built >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > alongside the Mercedes-Benz S-Class >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > flagship sedan which has explained why it >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > has not fared well in the market, >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > furthermore the Maybach's pedigree was >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > virtually unknown outside of Germany unlike >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > its British rivals which have long enjoyed >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > renown worldwide. A >> > Bentley executive was >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> quoted as saying "that the brand's exclusivity, >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> history and obsessive luxury help to convince >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> customers that a Bentley is worth the price" which >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> is at least twice that of a flagship luxury car >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> from BMW or Mercedes-Benz. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > The top-performing variants of flagship >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > cars from Audi, BMW, and Mercedes-Benz are >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > often included here as well. They often >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > have 12-cylinder (usually V12) engines for >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > great refinement and smoothness, even >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > though contemporary V8 engines can make >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > similar output while being less expensive. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > While BMW sells far fewer V12-engined >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > 7-Series vehicles than V8 versions, the V12 >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > retains popularity in the US, China, and >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Russia, as well as maintaining the marque's >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > prestige in the luxury vehicle market >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > segment. These ultra-luxury trims also >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > feature standard luxury and technology >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > features that would be considered optional >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > on their V8 siblings. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > There are ultra-high performance cars from >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > "exotic brands" that also exceed >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > US$100,000, but would not necessarily be >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > categorized as luxury automobiles, such as >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the sports cars from Ferrari, Lamborghini >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > and Porsche, although the Porsche Panamera >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > does compete in the high-end >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > luxury/full-size luxury category. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > --- >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Jadi berdasarkan informasi yang diberikan >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > oleh WIKIPEDIA, Toyota bukanlah merk mobil >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > mewah (baca lagi definisinya di atas) untuk >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > kelas mobil mewah Toyota punya merk >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > sendiri, yaitu L.... (cari sendiri >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > jawabnya, jangan mau disuapin aja). >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Berdasarkan pernyataan WIKIPEDIA pada >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxury_vehicle: >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > There are ultra-high performance cars from >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > "exotic brands" that also exceed >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > US$100,000, but would not necessarily be >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > categorized as luxury automobiles, such as >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the sports cars from Ferrari, Lamborghini >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > and Porsche, although the Porsche Panamera >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > does compete in the high-end >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > luxury/full-size luxury category. >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Dengan demikian bisa dikatakan Ferrari >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > TIDAK termasuk kedalam kelas mobil mewah, >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > walau harganya sendiri relatif mahal. Saat >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > dulu berdiskusi dengan johny, kami sedang >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > memperbincangkan kenikmatan berkendaraan >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > dengan akselerasi tinggi, bukannya >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > memperbincangkan mobil mewah. Baca lagi itu >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > tulisan. 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