The friction is real – DCO is not a submission quality issue but a
roundtrip one. This would be even more difficult with wording.

 I agree that in *many* cases contributors can write the changelog entry;
having the field in the PR template would encourage them to do so
proactively.

/MR

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 1:12 PM Ben Kochie <[email protected]> wrote:

> DCO is a strawman argument. We're always going to have issues with
> submission quality.
>
> I've had very good luck asking for changelog entries on the node_exporter.
>
> On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 8:22 AM Brian Brazil <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 at 07:10, Frederic Branczyk <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I recall Simon having a tool that would largely generate the changelog
>>> automatically, that worked pretty well last time I was release shepherd.
>>> Otherwise I'm also happy to discuss a process like in Kubernetes where the
>>> changelog item is written into the PR. On Thanos we have in the PR template
>>> that people have ensured that the changelog item was added respective to
>>> the change. Seems like there are options,
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> I personally would favor something that would be done at contribution
>>> time, so not all the responsibility falls on the release shepherd as it
>>> does today, and more generally it seems like the person contributing the
>>> change probably is also a good candidate to describe it in the changelog.
>>>
>>
>> This is additional friction to contributions, we already have enough fun
>> getting the DCO signed. It's also an additional burden on every single PR,
>> we need to individually figure out if it's worth mentioned in the changelog
>> (many PRs aren't) and then get it in the right category, with good wording,
>> and handling the regular conflicts as everyone would be touching the same
>> lines in the same file.
>>
>> Even with all that the release shepard would still need to go through all
>> the commits and double check that nothing was missed, plus fixing poor
>> wording. I don't think saving 2-3 minutes off a release is worth all these
>> downsides.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 at 08:05, Callum Styan <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to start a discussion around changing how we manage the
>>>> prometheus/prometheus changelog, specifically the fact that the changelog
>>>> is generated manually by the release shepherd as part of the release
>>>> process.
>>>>
>>>> We can discuss options for what the new process would look like, such
>>>> as requiring PR's to include changelog entries before merging or the next
>>>> release shepherd periodically updating the changelog prior to the release,
>>>> in more detail later. However I'd first like to get a sense of whether
>>>> anyone else feels strongly about either changing or not changing this part
>>>> of the release process.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Callum.
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