Robert,

A little expansion on the previous comments:

1. Slightly different sizes on different machines could be due to the
different machines having different "cluster sizes" on their Hard Drives,
but this should not make for large differences in size.

2. It sounds as if when your other designer friend was selecting the
reference point for the move / rotate / or whatever, that he had his cursor
"off grid" and that the reference point didn't actually go where he thought
it went since the grid size was too large.

JaMi


----- Original Message -----
From: "JaMi Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Couple Questions Database Size & Group moves/rotates


> Robert,
>
> First let me apologize for being braindead again (still?), as it appears
> that I just fired off another blank reply. Oh well . . .
>
> 1. Have you looked to see if there is anything that is in the internal
> recycle bin that needs to be emptied? (That's the one that always gets
me).
>
> 2. Everything within the "selection" will keep it's relative position to
the
> reference point of the entire "selection", and the "grid size" will only
be
> relevant to the positioning of that reference point at it's new location.
>
> Hope that helps,
>
> JaMi
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert M. Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 1:30 PM
> Subject: [PEDA] Couple Questions Database Size & Group moves/rotates
>
>
> Hello all,
> Have a couple questions,
> 1. I have a database the other designer is working on and he swears
> it jumped in size for no apparent reason. It was hovering around 4-5meg
> after a compact an dall of a sudden it will only compact down to 6.5 meg.
> which then puts it just over the 1.44 mark when zipped with win zip.
>
> There has been nothing added chaged etc enough to justify this big a jump
> in database size ( I've had bigger designs crunch to under 5meg), so just
> wondering
> if anyone knows if there are things that can get hung up to keep it this
> big.
> He has done a repair on it a couple time too.
> Now if that is what th esize is gonna be now fine but just can't see why
> this one is larger against comparable larger designs, it seems it just got
> larger
> by transfering it to and from two different PC's????
>
>
> 2. When doing any kind of group moves with footprints, vias and tracks etc
> does the snap grid at the time have any affect on what happens to the
> individual items when placed in new location. By that I mean do ALL of the
> selected
> items when moved STAY in the same relationship to each other within
> the group or could snap grids play some havoc here. Would this also b
etrue
> with respect to a group rotate, or worse with rotate?
> It seems on this same design, he is saying quite a few vias
> and or tracks are just shifted off connection after a group move??
> I would have thought once selected in a group that would stay in
> relationship
> with each other, is that true or not.
> I myself have noticed that when doing a group move you do want to try
> and pick up th egroup and pick a reference point that is on a part that
> is on a grid, that is if you want all the parts to remain on a nice or
same
> grid
> structure.
> But the real question is shouldn't it keep the same relationship of all
> items in group
> regardless of snap grid????
>
> Thanks
> Bob Wolfe.
>
>
>
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