Dennis Saputelli wrote:
i told my story before but ... i had a board once put on hold and missed a major deadline ISO shop
the called and said that my outside dimension string read 5.000 inches
but when they measured the drawn outline it measured 4.999 inches
i was out of the office
by the time the 'deviation exception' form was filled out and signed off
by them a whole week was lost
i pointed out that the routing tolerance was .005 inches anyway, "why did you put it on hold?" they said "because we are ISO" i told them i was sorry to hear that
the same junk is going on with my sheet metal suppliers now
Yves Dubois wrote:
The problem with ISO is that it protects incompetent engineers and transform them into "suppose to be intelligent managers". Those people hide behind the ISO monster that they create to keep there job.
On the long term.... When all businesses will be ISO (I hope not) what will be the point. They will have to invent another system so that they can be ISO.
May be we can start a naming contest for that futuristic new system:
here is a suggestion:
System Tracking Universal Procedure Integrated Documentation
Not Bad :)
Yves Dubois PCB designer Raytron LTD Montreal
----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] A little OT - ISO9000 was :PCB labelling
On Fri, 06 Jun 2003 08:08:09 -0400, you wrote:a
The idea behind ISO9000 is just plain "common" sense (I put "common" in
quotes because common sense really isn't very common). So why do we need
trendytrendy business school graduate buzzword to invoke it? Because the
business school graduates need to justify their existence and oversizedThe idea behind ISO9000 is self propagation.
paychecks and golden parachutes somehow ;-)
It spreads down the supply chain like an infectious disease.
I wonder what percentage of companies would have ISO9000 were it not for ISO9000 induced pressure from thier customers? Single digit is my guess.
Perhaps that is an indication of its real value.
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