lol. well maybe it will be ready for download by then? I hope nothing bad has happend to it. I would hate for the state to have wasted all this money on me for nothing. That would suck. and I more than likely would have to give something back.
GF On Jun 19, 2010, at 1:04 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote: > Not at all, man. We're cool. Karen and I go back a long way, maybe twenty or > thirty feet. No heat y'all. > > Regarding the way Pro Tools is developed, many departments work on various > aspects of the application and versions are tracked by user and group. At any > given moment, there could be dozens of versions on the server. At various > points, changes are incorporated into the master version. thing is, at > absolutely any point in the process, if, for example, there are inexplicable > problems and the development team suspects that certain groups or programmers > made some errors, the features could be peeled back. > > Actually, the changes to the UI to support VoiceOver were originally supposed > to be incorporated into version 8.0.3 but, for whatever reason, it didn't > happen and it was rolled over to 8.0.4. > > There's no specific reason to think that the stuff didn't make it in but, > hey, like I said, independent verification would be nice. I'll be away until > Monday. Maybe I'll get a chance to download. > > Slau > > On Jun 18, 2010, at 6:21 PM, clarence griffin wrote: > >> wow, I can't believe that we are getting in to this heated debate like this. >> lol Kind of funny. I just wish they would hurry the hell up and drop this >> thing so we all can play with it! F**k all that BS you guys are talking. lol. >> In my experiences as a beta tester, Programmers don't want to do extra work >> to take something out of a 99.9 percent completed program. If the last beta >> was accessible and avid was directly in touch with blind people for their >> input, what would make anyone think that they would strip all that work out >> of the final product? that would realy mean undoing pretty much everything >> they did over the last months. >> How smart would that be? >> Just my thoughts. >> >> GF >> >> >> On Jun 18, 2010, at 1:46 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: >> >>> Karen, >>> >>> First, please call me Slau. >>> >>> Second, Digidesign never guarantees that anything in a beta will appear in >>> the final release. Now, listen carefully: I have no reason to believe the >>> changes were not implemented. I have every reason to believe they are. All >>> I said was that, until someone confirms it with the commercial release of >>> 8.0.4, we can't say with absolute certainty that everything is as we've >>> expected. What did you learn as a journalist? Check your facts. That's all >>> I'm suggesting. Once again, all I'm saying is that we're talking as if it's >>> a done deal but I have yet to hear that someone has installed 8.0.4. >>> >>> slau >>> >>> On Jun 18, 2010, at 12:31 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: >>> >>>> Jerry, >>>> A beta release as you just noted, is *not* a commercial release. to my >>>> mind commercial releases are official. >>>> If digi backs this, then why have they not told you, firmly, that the >>>> changes exist? >>>> >>>> Karen >>>> >>>> On Fri, 18 Jun 2010, Slau Halatyn wrote: >>>> >>>>> Karen, >>>>> >>>>> I'm not sure what you mean by "official release." Of course, it's >>>>> officially a Pro Tools release. If you mean, whether it has the changes >>>>> implemented in the beta, again, I don't mean to alarm anyone but I have >>>>> yet to hear of someone downloading the update, installing it and >>>>> confirming the changes. I'm cautiously optimistic. >>>>> >>>>> Anyone? Just asking again. If I have a chance on Monday, I'll try to >>>>> confirm. >>>>> >>>>> Slau >>>>> >>>>> On Jun 18, 2010, at 11:44 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> So, this is not an official release yet? >>>>>> This is why I am waiting. until its officially out, anything can happen. >>>>>> Karen >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, 18 Jun 2010, clarence griffin wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> no upgrade to get yet. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> GF >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jun 18, 2010, at 11:34 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It's not a dumb question at all. Here's a very important thing to >>>>>>>> note. While the accessibility improvements were clearly featured in >>>>>>>> the beta release of 8.0.4 HD, LE and M-Powered. Until someone actually >>>>>>>> confirms it with the commercial release, there's no way to guarantee >>>>>>>> it. By all means, we're all quite confident that the improvements were >>>>>>>> implemented but I have yet to hear from anyone that they've downloaded >>>>>>>> and installed the commercial version. I'm still on the beta and have >>>>>>>> not yet gotten around to doing the upgrade. Has anyone else? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This may sound like an extremely improbable thing but, it's possible >>>>>>>> that things might've changed before the release. That's why most >>>>>>>> companies ask testers not to talk about beta versions. In case >>>>>>>> something happens and a feature must be shelved until a future >>>>>>>> release, they don't want people to have expectations. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Again, not to alarm anyone but, frankly, I haven't heard of anyone >>>>>>>> installing the commercial version yet. Anyone? I personally won't have >>>>>>>> a chance to upgrade my HD system until a week from now, at best. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >> >
