Karen,

First, please call me Slau.

Second, Digidesign never guarantees that anything in a beta will appear in the 
final release. Now, listen carefully: I have no reason to believe the changes 
were not implemented. I have every reason to believe they are. All I said was 
that, until someone confirms it with the commercial release of 8.0.4, we can't 
say with absolute certainty that everything is as we've expected. What did you 
learn as a journalist? Check your facts. That's all I'm suggesting. Once again, 
all I'm saying is that we're talking as if it's a done deal but I have yet to 
hear that someone has installed 8.0.4.

slau

On Jun 18, 2010, at 12:31 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:

> Jerry,
> A beta release as you just noted, is *not* a commercial release.  to my mind 
> commercial releases are official.
> If digi backs this, then why have they not told you, firmly, that the changes 
> exist?
> 
> Karen
> 
> On Fri, 18 Jun 2010, Slau Halatyn wrote:
> 
>> Karen,
>> 
>> I'm not sure what you mean by "official release." Of course, it's officially 
>> a Pro Tools release. If you mean, whether it has the changes implemented in 
>> the beta, again, I don't mean to alarm anyone but I have yet to hear of 
>> someone downloading the update, installing it and confirming the changes. 
>> I'm cautiously optimistic.
>> 
>> Anyone? Just asking again. If I have a chance on Monday, I'll try to confirm.
>> 
>> Slau
>> 
>> On Jun 18, 2010, at 11:44 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>> 
>>> So, this is not an official release yet?
>>> This is why I am waiting.  until its officially out, anything can happen.
>>> Karen
>>> 
>>> On Fri, 18 Jun 2010, clarence griffin wrote:
>>> 
>>>> no upgrade to get yet.
>>>> 
>>>> GF
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jun 18, 2010, at 11:34 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> It's not a dumb question at all. Here's a very important thing to note. 
>>>>> While the accessibility improvements were clearly featured in the beta 
>>>>> release of 8.0.4 HD, LE and M-Powered. Until someone actually confirms it 
>>>>> with the commercial release, there's no way to guarantee it. By all 
>>>>> means, we're all quite confident that the improvements were implemented 
>>>>> but I have yet to hear from anyone that they've downloaded and installed 
>>>>> the commercial version. I'm still on the beta and have not yet gotten 
>>>>> around to doing the upgrade. Has anyone else?
>>>>> 
>>>>> This may sound like an extremely improbable thing but, it's possible that 
>>>>> things might've changed before the release. That's why most companies ask 
>>>>> testers not to talk about beta versions. In case something happens and a 
>>>>> feature must be shelved until a future release, they don't want people to 
>>>>> have expectations.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Again, not to alarm anyone but, frankly, I haven't heard of anyone 
>>>>> installing the commercial version yet. Anyone? I personally won't have a 
>>>>> chance to upgrade my HD system until a week from now, at best.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>> 

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