if you can't afford school, you can still get and read lots of books
on recording, or producing, or mixing or mastering etc.
The FS in dBFS means full scale. (not the same as dbV dBU dBSPL etc.)
At 04:37 AM 7/11/2014, you wrote:
You wrote:
First of all, Chris, you probably shouldn't expect that people have
the time to listen to an mp3 where you start going into your
preference settings. That's just not reasonable for most people.
And, I didn't! expect people to be required to listen. Why do you
think I said, if you want! to listen to it, it may help explain
things. Nowhere what so ever did I make mention that people
absolutely just, had! to listen to it. If you don't wanna play it,
or don't have the time, then, don't. Plain and simple. It's only an
option I provided.
Secondly, if you're close to clipping with your preamps all the way
down, then there's another issue here that you need to address and
I'm not sure what that is but I can assure you that no microphone's
own output signal is hot enough to hit line level without a preamp
of some sort.
The issue is Slau, it's apparently not hitting that hot, you're
correct. Even when Sweetwater went in and looked, it shows I'm
hitting at a decent level. I think it's more a Voiceover thing than
anything. It appears based on all the testing I've done with an
experienced sighted person who knows a ton about audio production,
that it's Voiceover being dumb and not correctly announcing the meter levels.
You wrote:
You clearly don't have the answer because you're searching for it
and it would take some deeper examination of what's going on to
figure out your issue.
OK that made no sense. If something is going wrong, isn't that what
one should do?... search and try to figure out the answer? How can
you examine anything to start with if you don't search nor ask for
what may be the cause?
You wrote:
I assure you that it has absolutely zero to do with Pro Tools itself.
I now agree. I think it's more a bug with Voiceover. When sighted
people have looked at my levels, I'm coming in around -14 to -12,
which is absolutely perfect. However, on the actual mono audio
track itself which the mike is being recorded, when I sing into the
mike, as I'm doing so looking at the meter, according to Voiceover,
I'm peeking around -5 to -4 DB. So, at this time, the only
explaination that I have is Voiceover is being dumb. When I used PT
10, I didn't change a single thing in my interface software, nor did
I change anything with the physical hardware gain input dial on the
channel through my interface, yet, in PT 10, the meter shows correctly.
You wrote:
It's software and has no bearing on your recording volume. The
problem is that you're dealing with some stuff that you don't
understand and you'll need to get a handle on it in order to solve the problem.
OK, what stuff then don't I understand? What stuff do I need to
research more thoroughly?
You wrote:
The quagmire is that it takes a lot of time to understand the
various aspects of the myriad of equipment and that's why there are
schools that teach audio engineering and production.
OK, but if you can't afford to go to one of those schools...
You wrote:
Of course, it's possible to learn this on your own but it can take
quite a long time.
Understandable.
You wrote:
Bottom line is, if you have a microphone going into an interface and
nothing else in between, there's no possible way your levels can be
at -4 dB FS.
For one thing, I know what -4DB means, but when you say DB FS, what
do you mean by FS? Maybe we're talking two different levels
here. Then again, nmaybe not? Secondly, let me go back to my
initial point. If indeed this is not ProTools related, and please
know, this isn't in any way meant to challenge you nor to be
rude/difficult, I'm just trying to understand your point from the
bigger picture. So, keep that in mind when reading what I'm about to ask.
If PT has nothing to do with it, which by the way, I'm in agreement
with you on at this point in time until proven otherwise, then
explain this to me... Why then is PT 10 with Voiceover showing me
something totally different than PT 11, when my settings are
absolutely 100% identical on both versions, I'm running both on the
same mac computer, so it's not like I'm on a different workstation,
same hardware, same interface, same drivers, same software, same
hardware wiring, same hookup, and all my levels on PT, as well as on
the interface itself haven't been touched with a 12 foot poll, sota
speak, yet I'm getting totally completely different readouts between
the two versions? That almost indicates to me that there is an
issue in PT 11.2 reading the meaters, vs. in 10.0. This is why I
asked a few messages back in the thread if PT11 handled the meters a
little differently, or if it was an issue of Voiceover itself doing
something odd.
You wrote:
I guarantee that there's another piece of gear that's causing you to
see levels that hot. I suggest you eliminate the variables and
figure the problem out that way.
All I have is my keyboard which is only running into the interface
via midi, so it can't be causing line levels, however, none the
less, I unplugged it and shut it off. I literally went as far as to
literally unplug it from the electrical power strip. I also
unplugged the midi in and out cords from both the keyboard and the
other ends of them from the interface. Essentially, I totally
unhooked the keyboard. I also unplugged my xlr cord from both my
microphone, as well as from the channel 1 input on my interface, and
even turned off phantom power. I even hit the 20DB padding button
on channel 1, to knotch it back 20DB just in case it was hearing
some electrical hiss/buzz noise, which is unlikely, but you never
know. Even doing all this, it did no baring. 10.0 still shows
totally acceptible, whilst 11.2 isn't.
I should add that there are no sends, and no plugins on the audio
track in PT which are giving me this issue with the meter. I know
that the volume fader on the track is output not my input volume,
however, just to see if something wasn't set right, I ran that fader
all the way to minus infinity yet it had no baring. I even muted
the track. Again, I understand totally that is dealing with output,
not input, so that wouldn't have any effect. I know, I know, I
know. I did it just for the hell of it. I figure I had nothing to lose.
Chris.
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