That is beautiful. unreal. problem solved. thanking you  Slau my friend. You 
saved my day. That’s what it was. So simple when you know. Cheers for now.
Thanks again.
Steve

> On 16 Sep 2016, at 2:14 PM, Slau Halatyn <slauhala...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Steve,
> It sounds as if you have the insertion following playback. Normally, that’s 
> toggled by pressing Control+n. I’d imagine you’re probably not toggling that 
> on purpose but this raises one possibility and that is the Commands Keyboard 
> Focus. A lot of blind users are unaware of this mode and it can cause 
> potential problems. So, I’m wondering whether you’re aware of whether you 
> have it enabled. When the Edit window is open and the keyboard focus is on 
> the timeline, the Commands Keyboard Focus is on. That means that single 
> letters will issue commands like fade to start, fade to end, trim to start, 
> trim to end, etc. and pressing the n with no other modifier will toggle the 
> insertion to follow playback. The way to avoid this mode is to focus either 
> on the Clips List or the Groups List by pressing Command+Option+2 or 
> Command+Option+3 respectively. You can still use the Commands I mentioned 
> earlier but you’d simply have to add the Control modifier. Maybe look into 
> that and see if it might help. Let me know.
> Best,
> Slau
> 
>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 11:42 PM, Steve Sparrow <i...@sparrowsound.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi guys. well i have a problem, and a large question.
>> I’m having trouble from time to time with the cursor and arrow keys. i’m 
>> still running pro tools 11. i will be upgrading soon. how ever at times p t 
>> arrow keys stop allowing me to mark in and out points. for example the down 
>> arrow does not drop the insertion cursore. so if i’m playing a file, and 
>> drop the insertion with the down arrow. when i stop play back and hit space 
>> again to start playback the file does not go back to the insertion point. it 
>> just continues on from where it left off when stopped. the same with setting 
>> out points with the up arrow. this is across all files in p.t. The only way 
>> i can fix this is to trash all the preferences and start again. this a real 
>> pain in the ass as i’ve had to do this 3 times this month. Is there 
>> something i’m doing or some weird key stroke i am not aware of and and 
>> inadvertently hitting to cause this painful behaviour. I’ve checked all the 
>> usual stuff i think. Track in edit sellection is checked i’ve made sure 
>> quick nav is off, and turned voice over on and off and restarted. probably 
>> checked other things too. But any thoughts on what is causing this, and how 
>> i can get the cursor working properly again without retracing would be 
>> great. Is this a p t 11 bug that is a 12 fix. If this is the case i will 
>> except this.
>> Steve
>> 
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