These are business considerations... not tech. They could setup the exact
same model/limitation/priceing with pubsubhubbub!
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On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Eric Mill <[email protected]> wrote:

> It's about more than protecting your investment - supporting a REST
> API over existing resources is one thing, but supporting a free
> streaming API to the firehose, on the scale of Twitter, is a whole
> nother matter.  I don't know that the dividends by offering a
> completely free streaming API and expanding the user and developer
> base (like the REST API does) would be worth the incredible bandwidth
> costs they would incur by doing so.
>
> -- Eric
>
> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 5:58 AM, Andrew Badera <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Likewise. I even went so far as to say the same to Fred Wilson,
> > without response. Very disappointing -- I'll repeat myself here -- I
> > don't know that I can imagine a more bitter hypocrisy than Twitter's
> > behaviors of late toward the development community. I understand
> > protecting your investment, but I also understand integrity and
> > graciousness.
> >
> > ∞ Andy Badera
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> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 4:19 AM, tyler gillies <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> as ive said to a friend fairly recently
> >>
> >> f*SK twitter ;)
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:16 AM, Julien Genestoux
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> We (superfeedr) have created a hub exactly like this : we susbcribed to
> >>> the right users with the streaming API (that they've had for months),
> and
> >>> rebuild the feeds from it. It's technically fully fonctionnal.
> >>> I got in touch with Ryan Sarver and John Kalucki who said that this hub
> >>> would be breaking their TOS (which specifically mentions that we can't
> >>> redistribute/resyndicate/republish the data) and that if we turn it on,
> >>> they'd probably shut our access down. I believed this is more or less
> what
> >>> happend to GNIP last year.
> >>> Since I hate building things that are not "durable" and I don't want to
> >>> piss off people with false expectations, I never turned it on. If
> Twitter
> >>> ever changes their TOS or is even willing to discuss this specific
> matter
> >>> with us, we're more than happy to turn this hub on.
> >>> Cheers,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 9:54 AM, tyler gillies <[email protected]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> im surprised superfeedr just doesn't get firehose access and create
> their
> >>>> own twitter hub
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:01 PM, Kevin Marks <[email protected]>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> sitting at their hackathon, the stream is the same continuous flow of
> >>>>> JSON structs as the others are. You could use it to send updates to a
> PuSH
> >>>>> hub.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Jeff Lindsay <[email protected]>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Which also makes it possible for people to publish as PuSH ....
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 9:38 PM, Jud Valeski <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> just means that they're moving more and more funx over to the
> >>>>>>> streaming model (not PuSH).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 12:31 AM, Didier Durand
> >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi guys,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Does anybody know if the announcement of yesterday by Twitter (see
> >>>>>>>>
> http://techcrunch.com/2010/04/14/twitter-user-streams-annotations/)
> >>>>>>>> means that they are coming to Pubsubhubbub ?
> >>>>>>>> They mention "real-time notifications", no "more polling", etc.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks by advance for your hints
> >>>>>>>> didier
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
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> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Jeff Lindsay
> >>>>>> http://progrium.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
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> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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