On 29/10/10 19:29, Teyo Tyree wrote:
> On Oct 29, 7:32 am, Paul Nasrat <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 28 October 2010 23:39, Teyo Tyree <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Like to note a few things about our development shift that we
>>> unfortunately did not communicate effectively in our initial email.
>>> We are iterating on our internal development process in order to more
>>> rapidly deliver complete features across our projects.  In order to be
>>> as transparent as possible and to provide the community with enough
>>> context to understand our desire to shift the way we send patches to
>>> the list, I'll summarize our new process.  None of these processes are
>>> set in stone.  We plan to improve and refine our internal processes
>>> each week.
>>
>>> We have moved to short iteration cycles that deliver real value.  (We
>>> are testing one week iterations at the moment.)
>>
>> I think it's probably good news that you are adopting xp practices as
>> part of your development. It'll certainly mean the puppetlabs team has
>> a better shared understanding of the code base. I realise that it's
>> hard to figure the detail of involving the community.
>>
>> One thing I'm curious about is were these changes started before
>> puppetcamp? As that would have been a great opportunity to discuss
>> workflow in person and figure out some details and set expectations.
>> If not it's just unfortunate timing, maybe should try something with
>> the community and have regularish opportunities to improve the process
>> - ie retrospectives but aimed at ensuring the puppetlabs/open source
>> community workflow is continually improving.
>>
>> Paul
> 
> The switch happened after Puppet Camp. I agree that the timing was
> unfortunate.  We are indeed experimenting with XP.
> 
> We can totally include a public retrospective at the end of each
> iteration.  Our backlog is not fully populated at the moments.  We
> just picked the inventory service because it is damn useful and we had
> it pretty well characterized.  As Nigel pointed out, we are justing
> getting started and it is all a little rough around the edges. We are
> going to work hard to find something that works for everyone.

Just a side question: how does the bug-fix work you are doing fit in
this kind-of-scrum model?

-- 
Brice Figureau
My Blog: http://www.masterzen.fr/

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