Thank you Graham

I really appreciate your comments

Actually they are scaring largely much behind authkit

After a look at <http://jimmyg.org/work/code/index.html> , where
Pylons appears in the list of phased out projects (by the co-founder,
although it seems there is still a community maintaining the project)
and where I can read the following :
«  Phasing out of my own projects: Pylons - I'm using Flows (which I
absolutely love) instead. It corrects all the problems with WSGI and
Pylons which I discovered when writing the Pylons Book and is a
complete re-write of the whole codebase and core dependencies from
scratch, with complete conceptual integrity and with a far more
modular architecture than even Pylons »,
my questions are :

1. Is still wise starting new long term projects based on Pylons ?
2. How strong and motivated remains the Pylons development community ?
3. Which are, if any, the long term python web frameworks to
eventually consider as alternative to pylons ? (should I re-evaluate
django , which I don't like technically so much but it seems can count
on larger stable development community)

Your and other pylons users advices are very much  welcome on those
questions

Thank you again

Daniel



On Jun 4, 12:03 pm, Graham Higgins <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On 3 Jun 2010, at 17:47, daniel wrote:
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> > Thank you Graham for these precious inputs.
>
> Good, I'm glad it was of some use.
>
> On a slightly more general note:
>
> I would recommend that all developers who are currently using AuthKit  
> (or who plan to do so) should read and inwardly digest the statements  
> on this page:
>
> <http://jimmyg.org/work/code/index.html>
>
> in which James lists those of his Python modules that are currently  
> maintained and those which he is personally moving away from:
>
> 1. "Currently maintained Python modules:" (the list does not include  
> authkit)
>
> 2. "Phasing out of my own projects:
>     * Pylons - I'm using Flows ... instead.
>     * FormBuild 1 and 2 - use FormBuild 3 instead.
>     * AuthKit - I'm using [... other packages ... ] instead."
>
> (note that the URL for AuthKit in the page is incorrect, the domain is  
> authkit.org)
>
> AuthKit sources and the development repository is here:
>
> <https://hg.3aims.com/public/AuthKit/summary>
>
> (last change Fri, 27 Nov 2009 20:43:41 +0000)
>
> Developers should also take careful note that the last release of  
> AuthKit (0.4.5) is pinned to sub-0.6 versions of SQLAlchemy:  
> "SQLAlchemy>=0.5.0,<=0.5.99"
>
> My personal conclusion is that in theory and in practice, AuthKit is  
> no longer maintained (and reflecting that, I have removed the authkit  
> template from Shabti).
>
> James is quite explicit about the caveats --- "you should use my code  
> at your own risk because the probability I'll move on to something  
> different fairly quickly is rather large".
>
> Inevitably, there comes a point at which the best advice to provide to  
> enquirers is: "you should abandon this approach unless you are  
> prepared to maintain the package yourself"
>
> On the #pylons IRC channel, questions on the suitability of AuthKit as  
> an auth'n'auth solution for Pylons apps typically meet emphatically  
> strong deprecations from experienced and mature Pylons developers.
>
> I may have done you no favours at all by seeming to encourage you to  
> continue down what is very likely to be a developmental dead-end.
>
> I fully appreciate the project constraints that bind you but I felt I  
> should make the above as clear as I could, just to avoid any  
> misconceptions.
>
> HTH
>
> - --
> Cheers,
>
> Graham
>
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/ghiggins
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