On Wed, 28 May 2014 14:58:05 -0500, Larry Martell wrote:
> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Paul Rubin <email@example.com>
>> Larry Martell <larry.mart...@gmail.com> writes:
>> > Somthing I came across in my travels through the ether:
>> > https://medium.com/@deliciousrobots/5d2ad703365d/
>> "Python 3 can revive Python" https://medium.com/p/2a7af4788b10
>> long HN comment thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7801834
>> "Python 3 is fine" http://sealedabstract.com/rants/python-3-is-fine/
>> OT: wow that medium site is obnoxious.
> No company that I work for is using python 3 - they just have too much
> of an investment in a python 2 code base to switch. I'm just saying.
Is that Python 2 code base aimed at Python 2.7 or 2.6? Or 2.5? Or 2.4? Or
even 2.3? Or all of the above?
One of the most pernicious myths about this is that there is one single
Python 2 ecosystem. There isn't. The company I work for is stuck with 2.6
for the foreseeable future, because that's the version of Python provided
by the OS of choice. I recently migrated a client's code base from 2.3 to
2.6, and they will likely stay with 2.6 forever. And I know of at least
one company who is using Python 1.5 (yes, 1.5) and have no plans to
migrate. 1.5 works for them, and they apparently don't need or don't care
about security updates, so why should they migrate?
This is all good. If 2.x works for your application, and you don't care
about all the awesome new features in 3.3+, don't care about bug fixes
and security updates, and don't mind being stuck with a version of Python
that will slowly but surely become more and more obsolete, more power to
The Python core developers have recent committed to providing security
updates for 2.7 until 2020. And Redhat have paid support for 2.7 until
2023. So there's no rush.
But anyone who makes that decision to stay with 2.x forever is in the
same position as those who stay with 1.5 forever. Eventually, you'll have
no OS support, no vendor support, no security updates, no bug fixes, it
will become harder and harder to find programmers who know that
particular version of the language, and even harder to find third party
libraries that support it, training new staff in the obsolete version
will be hard because all the books and tutorials will be written for more
My prediction is:
- over the next three or four years, there will be a steady trickle of
people complaining about Python 3, slowly fading as more people move to
- when the main Linux distros start using Python 3 as their system
Python, there will be a sudden rush of people to Python 3;
- about six months before Python 2 drops out of free support, there will
be a sudden flood of panicky cries for help from people who didn't bother
making a *single* step towards migration over the previous ten years, and
suddenly realise that they need to migrate yesterday.