At 08:04 �� 27/3/2002, you wrote: >On 27 Mar 2002, at 1:44, Phoebus Dokos wrote: > > > > (hmmm civilised and Greek at the same sentence :-) > >Ok, say we'll admit that Greece is the cradle of modern >civilisation...
Ha! that was more than 2500 years ago... all we do now is party (and we're really good at it :-) > > 2. There are (as Dave and me among others) some differences between what > > you originally said and your clarifications UNLESS I didn't understand you > > completely > >I have no problem with not being clear from time to time. That's why >the need to clarify. Okay... just look at the end of this email >I have had IRCs from people in the US... >I suggested IRCs because that is a convenient way of paying for >the postage. >I will NEVER refuse to send the sources to somebody who >genuinely can't send me IRCs. Oh I understand that but it's useful to be clear from the get go to avoid ANY misunderstandings (and that's why having this conversation now, before the sources become available is very constructive :-) >I agree. I just don't find that many :-). Hehe > > 5. ESPECIALLY for hardware designers, I think that a provision should be > > made so they will be able to distribute some form of binaries (especially > > in ROMS) to avoid the problems vividly illustrated in QL-Developers by > > Peter (You do read that list don't you?). > >No, I'm sorry, I don't. If I remember correctly, at the time that list >was created, there was some talk of being vetted to be allowed in (I >might have this wrong), so I never bothered. I don't remember that being the case ever... Ql-developers is always open for anyone to join... nonetheless I already forwarded you Peter's message... (It's along the lines of Dave's objections though, only a little less confusing ;-))) (Sorry Dave :-D) >Could you ask Peter (or Claus) to copy their mesages to this list - >or could you copy the relevant messages to this list? > > See above. > > In any case we cannot argue that this isn't one of the most significant > > developments in the QL just shy of the announcement of Colour drivers! > >That we all agrre on. >On second thought, that we (most of us) agree on... > >It's absolutely no problem voicing your opinions/concerns. > - on the contrary - >The only thing is that I won't be replying right now to each >message. I prefer to have a bundle of questions/opinions that I can >treat all at once AFTER THE EASTER WEEKEND (I'm taking a >few days off and going to London). Oh agreed :-) In any case it would be easier for you to get the "median" of all the "dissenting opinions" and either clarify the "official route chosen" or adjust the license :-)))))) Don't forget to have a good time in London :-) Okay below find the main points of the SMSQ/E sources license/distribution scheme as I understood it... Please do correct me (and others) if there are any mistakes :-) 1. The copyright for SMSQ/E is retained by Tony Tebby (Nothing weird here, just like Linux) 1. There are (currently) two official distributors of LICENSED binaries and ONLY official Distributors can SELL SMSQ/E. 2. The registrar (and only the registrar) is making available the SMSQ/E sources to anyone that wants them free of charge, provided that the person sends return postage in form of IRCs and Media for the sources to be put on. (See also No. 7 for the contradiction) 3. Any modifications CANNOT be publicised until approved by the registrar 4. Any modifications/new code that is approved and entered in the source loses it's copyright from its author and derives the overall copyright status of SMSQ/E. (In that aspect, modifications from 3rd parties on the modifications from the 2nd party does not need to include the writer's copyright message/license but only the SMSQ/E license) 5. ANYONE CAN create a distribution for his own use from the sources but cannot give it away to no one free of charge or otherwise 6. It is STRICTLY prohibited for anyone to make the sources available on the internet (unless given specific permission to do so by the registrar or the copyright holder) 7. It is NOT STRICTLY prohibited (but in any case requires prior approval) for a PD library/Shareware catalog/Individual to give away the SMSQ/E sources provided no fee is charged (same as no. 2) Okay that is it.... Please clarify If I got them right or wrong :-) If No. 7 is right and No. 2 is not, then I do volunteer to distribute the sources in the US, free of charge :-) as well Phoebus
