On Thu, 28 Jan 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > [forcing legitimate users to call you, cause u don't accept mail from
> > them]
>
> What if these "legitimate" users wanted to send mail to my customers using some
> oddball protocol someone made up? The mail can be just as legitimate, but why
> do I have to start putting up servers for every protocol someone wants to make?
Isn't that a _totally_ different thing? This has nothing to do with the
matter. The sender would have to pass his protocol trough a system which
make a conversion. It's called a gateway.
> I do _not_ support "sending mail" by means of an ssh session that invokes the
> program to inject mail. Yet such a method could indeed function, and thus make
> those who want to use it "legitimate". So I'll decide to not offer that service
> (of receiving mail from those who want to send it by ssh) unless I come to see
> a business case for offering it.
I think this has nothing to do with our discussing matter.
> Likewise I don't offer the service of receiving mail that bypasses the normal
> delivery mechanisms through the dialup's local mail server.
Normal according to what? An RFC? Or to you?
> > > Simply inject your e-mail into the SMTP server of your ISP if you are doing so
> > > from a dialup. Your ISP is offering SMTP service?
> >
> > Apart from the fact that i don't use an ISP, yes he does. Only he doesn't
> > provide the reliability, speed (among other things) that i can provide
> > myself.
>
> You are unclear here.
Ok i will clarify it.
> Are you running your own SMTP server over a dialup to an ISP, bypassing their
Yes.
> SMTP server because yours runs better? Maybe this is because your ISP's SMTP
Yes mine runs better. Because:
1- It runs qmail.
2- the queue only has my own messages, i don't share it with someone else,
thus i don't have have to share delivery time with someone else (and
believe it, i would have to share it with a lot of people)
3- The smtp relay machine is sometimes overloaded (not to mention down)
It handles SMTP, HTTP,shell accounts, pop and who knows what else.
4- I don't trust the admins (it's bad enough, the messages i lose due to
bouncing cause of misconfigurations and other 'things')
5- I not exactly when the mail has arrived, if i use the relay i can only
hope it has arrived.
> server is clogged with spam? Is static IP and reverse delegation not an option
> to make your SMTP server look legitimate?
Why isn't my server legitimate?
starting delivery 1161: msg 25817 to remote [EMAIL PROTECTED]
delivery 1161: success:
206.97.151.5_accepted_message../Remote_host_said:_250_GAA21302_Message_accepted_for_delivery/
It seems your server hasn't any problems with mine.
> Are you running your own SMTP server somewhere else, like at work?
Nope i'm running it at home.
> Are you running something that only appears to be an SMTP server, such as
> "Spam Master 2000 Gold"?
Nope i'm running qmail, just like you.
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Tiago Pascoal ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) FAX : +351-1-7273394
Politicamente incorrecto, e membro (nao muito) proeminente da geracao rasca.
