Ken Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I appologize to easily catorgorize this person as a spammer.
> Howver, the bulk of email produced on the internet is from
> spam sites.
>
> Jenny, how much experience do you have with spam sites?
> have you designed, operated and maintained a spam site?
I am postmaster at one of the largest ISPs in Sweden, and I have been
working with antispam issues since 1995. I certainly have never been
in any way involved in designing, operating and maintaining spam
sites. But I am involved in running a mailinglist server, for
confirmed opt-in mailinglists, and find the issues of how to handle
mailinglist traffic in a non-abusive way quite important.
Consider, for instance, that one of our mailinglist (say, the one
about cat care and feeding) has a whole lot of subscribers from one of
our competitors - not an unlikely scenario for a Swedish mailinglist,
as there aren't really that many big providers here. When a listmail
goes out, depending on our concurrencyremote settings , it's entirely
possible that that provider's mailserver will be tied up handling the
list mail for quite some time. This might upset them - I know I'd get
upset if someone was doing it to my servers. In fact, I've been forced
to temporarily block maillist servers which behaved that way - not
because the mails themselves were spam, but because the behaviour of
the listserver caused problems for my servers.
The original poster was trying to discuss how to handle this very
issue, as an MTA which makes one connection per address may quite
easily cause such problems. Thus, his question was quite on-topic for
this list. Your reply was not.
> However, he has not shown any evidence that he is,
> or is not a spammer.
Exactly.
> Shall we all now agreee that anyone who sends out
> bulk emails is not a spammer?
No. Anyone who sends out *unsolicited* bulk email is a spammer. The
original poster has repeatedly stated that he is working with
solicited email. Unless you have any reason to doubt this, please stop
making false statements.
> I see a lack of evidence that this person is not
> a spammer. Why else would a person be sending out
> large amounts of emails to non local domains
How about because they run confirmed opt-in mailinglists which are
interesting to a lot of people outside their own domains?
However, this has nothing to do with qmail. If you have any further
issues with bulk emailing, I suggest you take them to SPAM-L or some
other forum where it is on-topic.
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