All my domains have only .qmail-default at domain level (and none at
user level): 

| /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox 

Except one only-tests domain has: 

|/var/qmail/bin/preline -f /usr/libexec/dovecot/deliver -d $EXT@$USER -o
postmaster_address=postmaster@domain 

I have a COS7 and used the install scripts but I remember when I use
Qmail Admin for vacation messages and aliases it didn't work, so I had
to replace the dovecot/deliver line for the vdelivermail line. 

So I guess I'm not using dspam at all, right?

Em 2020-08-31 10:28, Eric Broch escreveu:

> Here's my domain level directory. There are no .qmail-user files only 
> .qmail-default : 
> 
> # ls -la /home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.tld/
> total 24
> drwx------ 11 vpopmail vchkpw 4096 Oct 31  2019 .
> drwx------  8 vpopmail vchkpw 4096 Apr  6  2019 ..
> drwx------  3 vpopmail vchkpw  143 Dec 28  2016 user1
> drwx------  3 vpopmail vchkpw  143 Dec 28  2016 user2
> drwx------  4 vpopmail vchkpw 4096 Aug 16 13:39 user2
> drwx------  3 vpopmail vchkpw  143 Dec 28  2016 user4
> drwx------  3 vpopmail vchkpw  143 Dec 28  2016 user5
> drwx------  3 vpopmail vchkpw 4096 Apr  8  2019 postmaster
> -rw-------  1 vpopmail vchkpw   56 Sep 14  2017 .qmail-default 
> 
> Eric 
> 
> On 8/31/2020 7:23 AM, Eric Broch wrote: 
> 
> In the PER USER configuration the 
> '/home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.tld/.qmail-default' file doesn't change and 
> remains: 
> 
> | /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox 
> 
> On 8/31/2020 7:20 AM, Eric Broch wrote: 
> 
> So, here's what the directory directory looks like: 
> 
> # ls -la /home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.tld/user
> total 52
> drwx------   4 vpopmail vchkpw  4096 Aug 16 13:39 .
> drwx------  11 vpopmail vchkpw  4096 Oct 31  2019 ..
> drwx------ 357 vpopmail vchkpw 12288 Aug 31 07:10 Maildir
> -rw-------   1 vpopmail vchkpw    21 Dec 28  2016 .mailfilter.dspam
> -rw-------   1 vpopmail vchkpw    42 Aug 16 13:38 .qmail 
> 
> .qmail file (one line no quotes):  "| preline /usr/bin/maildrop 
> ./.mailfilter.dspam" 
> 
> .mailfilter.dspam (here) [1].
> 
> Eric 
> 
> On 8/31/2020 7:09 AM, Eric Broch wrote: 
> 
> When I do per user the file .qmail file resides in that person's home email 
> directory '/home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.tld/user' (in the same directory 
> as Maildir). 
> 
> This .qmail file contains the following:
> 
> | preline /usr/bin/maildrop ./.mailfilter.dspam
> 
> .mailfilter.dspam here [1].
> 
> It does NOT duplicate email.
> 
> On 8/30/2020 10:33 PM, Remo Mattei wrote: I have a little diff variant from 
> Eric,  
> If I do the top level like Eric I do have the same config, if I do per user I 
> have the following in the .qmail-user  
> 
> |/usr/bin/dspam  --deliver=innocent --user $EXT@$USER --debug --mode=teft 
> --feature=noise,whitelist --stdout -p -m | /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' 
> /home/vpopmail/domains/domain.ht/user 
> 
> Keep in mind if you do use RC, this becomes tricky since the .qmail-user will 
> become .qmail inside of the user home dir and this will make duplicates 
> (emails).  
> 
> Just my 2 cents. Overall, it's pretty similar to what Eric has.  
> 
> Remo 
> 
> On Aug 30, 2020, at 6:40 PM, David Bray <[email protected]> wrote: 
> 
> Thanks 
> My understanding of the beast just increased 
> 
> Cheers 
> 
> David Bray 
> 0418 745334
> 2 ∞ & < 
> 
> On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 11:29, Eric Broch <[email protected]> wrote: 
> 
> This is the contents of the .qmail-default (domain level) file that's existed 
> since the beginning and never changed (directory: 
> /home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain) :
> 
> | /usr/bin/dspam --user "$EXT@$HOST" --deliver=stdout | 
> /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox
> 
> The .qmail file if one decides to run dspam by user (not domain) is as 
> follows (/home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain/myuser) :
> 
> | preline /usr/bin/maildrop ./.mailfilter.dspam
> 
> .mailfilter.dspam here [1].
> 
> The lines provided in the previous email do not call dspam at all (below):
> 
> <quote>
> 
> it creates the .qmail as a result       
> 
> |/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter: 
> maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter
> 
> if you then edit the account via the admin panel that file becomes:
> 
> |/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter: 
> maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter 
> /home/vpopmail/domains/brayworth.com/[user]/Maildir/ [2]
> 
> </quote>
> 
> Eric
> 
> On 8/30/2020 7:06 PM, David Bray wrote: 
> Ok - working backwards from memory here 
> and when I read the install script I can see that the .qmail file is not 
> created 
> 
> so (and this is getting off topic now) 
> 
> * there should only be a .qmail-default and not a .qmail
> 
> * and
> it's likely that these came from an older install 
> 
> * so they should be removed ..
> 
> David Bray 
> 0418 745334
> 2 ∞ & < 
> 
> On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 09:53, Eric Broch <[email protected]> wrote: 
> 
> Hmmm... 
> 
> I never had double delivery and mine's been installed for 5 years or more. 
> 
> The install script installs only one dot qmail file (.qmail-default), and 
> only after a query to implement at domain level. 
> 
> You have the option to run dspam at domain or user level. 
> 
> Please show me where in the install procedure a .qmail file is created with 
> the following line: 
> 
> |/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter: 
> maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter 
> 
> ? 
> 
> The install script is for CentOS 5/6/7. I've yet to upgrade it for 8. 
> 
> I would recommend Dspam; however, it needs some attention. 
> 
> Eric 
> 
> On 8/30/2020 4:31 PM, David Bray wrote: 
> I wondered this exact question and was going to ask this question 
> I've wondered how it actually works 
> I've disabled it 
> 
> if it works as documented at: 
> 
> * https://raw.githubusercontent.com/qmtoaster/dspam/
> 
> it creates the .qmail as a result 
> |/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter: 
> maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter 
> 
> if you then edit the account via the admin panel that file becomes: 
> |/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter: 
> maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter 
> /home/vpopmail/domains/brayworth.com/[user]/Maildir/ [2] 
> 
> which results in a double up of delivery ... 
> if you remove the file, the problem goes away 
> 
> so at best it needs to be carefully monitored, but it is still effective 
> 
> but the newer scripted install does a pretty good job with spamassassin 
> anyway ... so I've disabled it.. 
> 
> David Bray 
> 0418 745334
> 2 ∞ & < 
> 
> On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 07:10, <[email protected]> wrote: I have used dspam from 
> the early days so you could put this as an option on your playbook. 
> 
> Just my 2cents 
>> Il giorno 30 ago 2020, alle ore 13:43, Angus McIntyre <[email protected]> ha 
>> scritto:
>> 
>> I'm (still!) working on my Ansible role for installing qmailtoaster, but 
>> I've switched to CentOS 8, based on Eric's new script, and it seems much 
>> more straightforward and robust.
>> 
>> One question I have is whether I should try to support dspam or not. It 
>> looks as if the project was abandoned in 2014, amid reports that dspam never 
>> performed as well as the developer claimed.
>> 
>> Anyone have any thoughts or feelings (or, better, solid data) on whether 
>> it's worth including dspam in a qmailtoaster install?
>> 
>> Angus
>> 
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Links:
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[1] https://github.com/qmtoaster/dspam/blob/master/.mailfilter.dspam
[2] http://brayworth.com/%5Buser%5D/Maildir/

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