And, you're not using DSpam

On 8/31/2020 4:52 PM, Eric Broch wrote:

You're good and are using Sieve it looks like.

On 8/31/2020 4:50 PM, Leonardo wrote:

All my domains have only .qmail-default at domain level (and none at user level):

| /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox

Except one only-tests domain has:

|/var/qmail/bin/preline -f /usr/libexec/dovecot/deliver -d $EXT@$USER -o postmaster_address=postmaster@domain

I have a COS7 and used the install scripts but I remember when I use Qmail Admin for vacation messages and aliases it didn't work, so I had to replace the dovecot/deliver line for the vdelivermail line.

So I guess I'm not using dspam at all, right?

Em 2020-08-31 10:28, Eric Broch escreveu:

Here's my domain level directory. There are no .qmail-user files only .qmail-default :

# ls -la /home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.tld/
total 24
drwx------ 11 vpopmail vchkpw 4096 Oct 31  2019 .
drwx------  8 vpopmail vchkpw 4096 Apr  6  2019 ..
drwx------  3 vpopmail vchkpw  143 Dec 28  2016 user1
drwx------  3 vpopmail vchkpw  143 Dec 28  2016 user2
drwx------  4 vpopmail vchkpw 4096 Aug 16 13:39 user2
drwx------  3 vpopmail vchkpw  143 Dec 28  2016 user4
drwx------  3 vpopmail vchkpw  143 Dec 28  2016 user5
drwx------  3 vpopmail vchkpw 4096 Apr  8  2019 postmaster
-rw-------  1 vpopmail vchkpw   56 Sep 14  2017 .qmail-default

Eric

On 8/31/2020 7:23 AM, Eric Broch wrote:

In the PER USER configuration the '/home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.tld/.qmail-default' file doesn't change and remains:

| /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox

On 8/31/2020 7:20 AM, Eric Broch wrote:

So, here's what the directory directory looks like:

# ls -la /home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.tld/user
total 52
drwx------   4 vpopmail vchkpw  4096 Aug 16 13:39 .
drwx------  11 vpopmail vchkpw  4096 Oct 31  2019 ..
drwx------ 357 vpopmail vchkpw 12288 Aug 31 07:10 Maildir
-rw-------   1 vpopmail vchkpw    21 Dec 28  2016 .mailfilter.dspam
-rw-------   1 vpopmail vchkpw    42 Aug 16 13:38 .qmail

.qmail file (one line no quotes):  "| preline /usr/bin/maildrop ./.mailfilter.dspam"

.mailfilter.dspam (here)  
<https://github.com/qmtoaster/dspam/blob/master/.mailfilter.dspam>.

Eric


On 8/31/2020 7:09 AM, Eric Broch wrote:

When I do per user the file .qmail file resides in that person's home email directory '/home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.tld/user' (in the same directory as Maildir).

This .qmail file contains the following:

| preline /usr/bin/maildrop ./.mailfilter.dspam

.mailfilter.dspamhere  
<https://github.com/qmtoaster/dspam/blob/master/.mailfilter.dspam>.


It does NOT duplicate email.

On 8/30/2020 10:33 PM, Remo Mattei wrote:
I have a little diff variant from Eric,
If I do the top level like Eric I do have the same config, if I do per user I have the following in the .qmail-user |/usr/bin/dspam  --deliver=innocent --user $EXT@$USER --debug --mode=teft --feature=noise,whitelist --stdout -p -m | /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' /home/vpopmail/domains/domain.ht/user Keep in mind if you do use RC, this becomes tricky since the .qmail-user will become .qmail inside of the user home dir and this will make duplicates (emails).
Just my 2 cents. Overall, it's pretty similar to what Eric has.
Remo

On Aug 30, 2020, at 6:40 PM, David Bray <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Thanks
My understanding of the beast just increased
Cheers

David Bray
0418 745334
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On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 11:29, Eric Broch <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    This is the contents of the .qmail-default (domain level)
    file that's existed since the beginning and never changed
    (directory: /home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain) :

    | /usr/bin/dspam --user "$EXT@$HOST" --deliver=stdout | 
/home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox

    The .qmail file if one decides to run dspam by user (not domain) is as 
follows (/home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain/myuser) :

    | preline /usr/bin/maildrop ./.mailfilter.dspam

    .mailfilter.dspamhere  
<https://github.com/qmtoaster/dspam/blob/master/.mailfilter.dspam>.

    The lines provided in the previous email do not call dspam at all (below):

    <quote>

    it creates the .qmail as a result

    |/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter: 
maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter


    if you then edit the account via the admin panel that file becomes:

    |/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter: 
maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter
    /home/vpopmail/domains/brayworth.com/[user]/Maildir/  
<http://brayworth.com/%5Buser%5D/Maildir/>

    </quote>

    Eric

    On 8/30/2020 7:06 PM, David Bray wrote:
    Ok - working backwards from memory here
    and when I read the install script I can see that the
    .qmail file is not created
    so (and this is getting off topic now)

      * there should only be a .qmail-default and not a .qmail
      * and
        it's likely that these came from an older install
          o so they should be removed ..


    David Bray
    0418 745334
    2 ∞ & <

    On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 09:53, Eric Broch
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
    wrote:

        Hmmm...

        I never had double delivery and mine's been installed
        for 5 years or more.

        The install script installs only one dot qmail file
        (.qmail-default), and only after a query to implement
        at domain level.

        You have the option to run dspam at domain or user level.

        Please show me where in the install procedure a .qmail
        file is created with the following line:

        |/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A
        'Content-Filter: maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter

        ?

        The install script is for CentOS 5/6/7. I've yet to
        upgrade it for 8.

        I would recommend Dspam; however, it needs some attention.

        Eric

        On 8/30/2020 4:31 PM, David Bray wrote:
        I wondered this exact question and was going to ask
        this question
        I've wondered how it actually works
        I've disabled it
        if it works as documented at:

          * https://raw.githubusercontent.com/qmtoaster/dspam/

        it creates the .qmail as a result

            |/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A
            'Content-Filter: maildrop-toaster'
            /etc/mail/mailfilter

        if you then edit the account via the admin panel that
        file becomes:

            |/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A
            'Content-Filter: maildrop-toaster'
            /etc/mail/mailfilter

            /home/vpopmail/domains/brayworth.com/[user]/Maildir/
            <http://brayworth.com/%5Buser%5D/Maildir/>


        which results in a double up of delivery ...
        if you remove the file, the problem goes away
        so at best it needs to be carefully monitored, but it
        is still effective
        but the newer scripted install does a pretty good job
        with spamassassin anyway ... so I've disabled it..

        David Bray
        0418 745334
        2 ∞ & <

        On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 07:10, <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            I have used dspam from the early days so you
            could put this as an option on your playbook.

            Just my 2cents
            > Il giorno 30 ago 2020, alle ore 13:43, Angus
            McIntyre <[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>> ha scritto:
            >
            > I'm (still!) working on my Ansible role for
            installing qmailtoaster, but I've switched to
            CentOS 8, based on Eric's new script, and it
            seems much more straightforward and robust.
            >
            > One question I have is whether I should try to
            support dspam or not. It looks as if the project
            was abandoned in 2014, amid reports that dspam
            never performed as well as the developer claimed.
            >
            > Anyone have any thoughts or feelings (or,
            better, solid data) on whether it's worth
            including dspam in a qmailtoaster install?
            >
            > Angus
            >
            >
            
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