Thanks
My understanding of the beast just increased

Cheers

David Bray
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On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 11:29, Eric Broch <[email protected]> wrote:

> This is the contents of the .qmail-default (domain level) file that's
> existed since the beginning and never changed (directory:
> /home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain) :
>
> | /usr/bin/dspam --user "$EXT@$HOST" --deliver=stdout | 
> /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox
>
> The .qmail file if one decides to run dspam by user (not domain) is as 
> follows (/home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain/myuser) :
>
> | preline /usr/bin/maildrop ./.mailfilter.dspam
>
> .mailfilter.dspam here 
> <https://github.com/qmtoaster/dspam/blob/master/.mailfilter.dspam>.
>
> The lines provided in the previous email do not call dspam at all (below):
>
> <quote>
>
> it creates the .qmail as a result
>
> |/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter: 
> maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter
>
>
> if you then edit the account via the admin panel that file becomes:
>
> |/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter: 
> maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter
> /home/vpopmail/domains/brayworth.com/[user]/Maildir/ 
> <http://brayworth.com/%5Buser%5D/Maildir/>
>
> </quote>
>
> Eric
>
> On 8/30/2020 7:06 PM, David Bray wrote:
>
> Ok - working backwards from memory here
> and when I read the install script I can see that the .qmail file is not
> created
>
> so (and this is getting off topic now)
>
>    - there should only be a .qmail-default and not a .qmail
>    - and
>    it's likely that these came from an older install
>       - so they should be removed ..
>
>
> David Bray
> 0418 745334
> 2 ∞ & <
>
>
> On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 09:53, Eric Broch <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hmmm...
>>
>> I never had double delivery and mine's been installed for 5 years or more.
>>
>> The install script installs only one dot qmail file (.qmail-default), and
>> only after a query to implement at domain level.
>>
>> You have the option to run dspam at domain or user level.
>>
>> Please show me where in the install procedure a .qmail file is created
>> with the following line:
>>
>> |/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter:
>> maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter
>>
>> ?
>>
>> The install script is for CentOS 5/6/7. I've yet to upgrade it for 8.
>>
>> I would recommend Dspam; however, it needs some attention.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>> On 8/30/2020 4:31 PM, David Bray wrote:
>>
>> I wondered this exact question and was going to ask this question
>> I've wondered how it actually works
>> I've disabled it
>>
>> if it works as documented at:
>>
>>    - https://raw.githubusercontent.com/qmtoaster/dspam/
>>
>> it creates the .qmail as a result
>>
>> |/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter:
>> maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter
>>
>>
>> if you then edit the account via the admin panel that file becomes:
>>
>> |/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter:
>> maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter
>>
>> /home/vpopmail/domains/brayworth.com/[user]/Maildir/
>> <http://brayworth.com/%5Buser%5D/Maildir/>
>>
>>
>> which results in a double up of delivery ...
>> if you remove the file, the problem goes away
>>
>> so at best it needs to be carefully monitored, but it is still effective
>>
>> but the newer scripted install does a pretty good job with spamassassin
>> anyway ... so I've disabled it..
>>
>>
>> David Bray
>> 0418 745334
>> 2 ∞ & <
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 at 07:10, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I have used dspam from the early days so you could put this as an option
>>> on your playbook.
>>>
>>> Just my 2cents
>>> > Il giorno 30 ago 2020, alle ore 13:43, Angus McIntyre <[email protected]>
>>> ha scritto:
>>> >
>>> > I'm (still!) working on my Ansible role for installing qmailtoaster,
>>> but I've switched to CentOS 8, based on Eric's new script, and it seems
>>> much more straightforward and robust.
>>> >
>>> > One question I have is whether I should try to support dspam or not.
>>> It looks as if the project was abandoned in 2014, amid reports that dspam
>>> never performed as well as the developer claimed.
>>> >
>>> > Anyone have any thoughts or feelings (or, better, solid data) on
>>> whether it's worth including dspam in a qmailtoaster install?
>>> >
>>> > Angus
>>> >
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