I agree that there may be more than one way to do things right. This I don't have a problem with. My problem, just so we are clear, are UX/UI designers who come up with something "new" but do not base the new design on any type of user research, studies or actual user feedback that tells them that the new design is subjectively easier to use. And I see a lot of designers just following the person in front of them without actually asking any questions.

But, I guess that is enough for today. Now the world knows my frustrations with UI, and just not my Gen-X software engineers. :-)

Mike Jackson  [mike.jack...@bluequartz.net]

Ariel Molina wrote:

It's romantic to look at good old times, and I understand your
frustration, but things are just not that way now. You need the market force
of Apple, Google or Microsoft to set a trend (just like skeu-then-flat,
paper and metro).

Better to adapt, there are more than one way to do things right,

Cheer up!


On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Mike Jackson <imikejack...@gmail.com
<mailto:imikejack...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    "Fashion" is the issue. Just because somebody made something
    fashionable does not mean it is correct or easy to use. The younger
    generation have never had it easier because they have only known to
    just tap/click everywhere until something happens. Let's introduce
    them to how things are supposed to work. Go against fashion and with
    ease of use. We can cite UI design rule after rule where those rules
    in the past were based on meticulous human-computer interaction
    research. The new generation of UI/UX designers seemed to have just
    tossed out all that research for no good reason.

    Example: Information density in icons. We now have access to
    "retina" class displays capable of displaying a LOT of information
    in an icon. Icon designers have been waiting 30 years for this to
    occur. And what happens? All the fashionable designs use an
    "outline" icon. Really? Those designers make the user work harder to
    attain the same information that a properly designed icon could store.

    Basic Color use: Why does everything have to be the same color? (I
    am looking at you Apple and your monochrome Finder). Some where
    after OS X 10.6.8 Apple decided that actually having nicely colored
    icons in the Finder was somehow "bad" so now every folder is the
    same shade of blue. That makes it really hard for users to
    distinguish between the "Downloads", "Home", "Pictures" or some
    other important folder that we pinned to the side of the Finder.

    Postbox (An Email Application) recently released a newer version.
    They used outline icons and low contrast typography all over the UI.
    There is even a point where I have a white outlined folder on a
    nearly white background. This just should NOT happen.

    Moral of the story. Don't be fashionable. Be correct. Be easy. Back
    up your designs with actual user research.

    Mike Jackson  [mike.jack...@bluequartz.net

    Ariel Molina wrote:

        Thing is that what's "easy" is hard to define, it tends to come
        and go
        as fashion goes. For example, current trend (from several years
        now) is
        that youngsters find "flat" easy and skeumorphic ugly simply because
        they are used to see things like that. So the UI team have to
        three things: ease for hardcore veterans, be appealing and
        "modern" for
        the new wave, and being easy to use. So they try hard, and I
        wish them
        the best.

Ariel Molina R.

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