Sorry, but i don't believe in open-source development. And stop telling me to "do it yourself" - i won't. I'm not paid for that. I'd better change framework and do my job without Qt, if i'll be sure that bugs in that framework will be fixed properly. Qt is great framework, because it was development by company, not opensource geeks (like GTK). Only thing i see - Qt is dying, because of disappearing support for desktop, and no mobile platforms with any future. Take for example this bug - https://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTBUG-3116 - 3 years old. In my opinion, it can be fixed in an hour - one 'if' and one cocoa method call. The problem is that i need to learn cocoa to determine how this toolbar height is calculated. I will spent maybe days of work for 2-3 lines of code.
I really can imagine how many code should be written to implement common 'widgets' in qml with all functionality that already present in 2d widgets. All i afraid is that we will receive small amount of qml components and we will have to do everything by hand in qml with no ability to fallback to 2d widgets (which have no support even now). About people who worked for 15 years - i've heard they are living nokia. Dunno why. 11.10.2011, в 15:38, Alexis Menard написал(а): On Oct 10, 2011, at 3:05 PM, Иван Комиссаров wrote: > I know that no one will remove QWidgets. > > But i need bug fixes. Bugs that i reported to Qt bug tracker about TWO YEARS > old, some of them with high priority. Even merge requests are waiting for > weeks to be reviewed. So please, stop developing that cool stuff for > developing 100line applications and fix what you have already done. Dude in some days there will be Qt Project. Get your reviewer or "whatever name it has" rank and review stuff yourself, fix, and improve QWidget. Qt is just like any open source project now. Nokia doesn't want to work on QWidget then that's just the way it is, if there is a community for QtWidget then it will naturally step up. Don't complain about people that did the job during 15 years, are not anymore paid by customer to do so but work on a company which has different vision and think it's pointless to work on those. This is opensource, you disagree, just leave and use GTK or whatever. You're just annoying with your FUD, you pointless point of view about platforms and your erroneous statements all over the thread. Life change, developement change, projects change that's the way it is. Companies work and invest time on what they think it's important for them. Qt is about to be as open as ever, you can take care of Qt3Support/QWidget/QMovie or whatever if that make sense to you. > > 10.10.2011, в 21:54, Thiago Macieira написал(а): > > On Monday, 10 de October de 2011 21:27:42 Иван Комиссаров wrote: >> Qt is not used for mobile development as i see. In fact, i agree that >> QWidgets are bad there. But main use-case for qt framework is desktop. Lot >> of arguments was about "limitations" of qwidgets and one of the example was >> mac style. First produce "next billion devices" (that would be sold), than >> let us your managers use nokia phones (Green still uses IPhone?), that we >> talk about mobile development. >> >> Not to be rude, i just don't share your optimism about mobile development >> with Qt. Development of new technologies is great, but do not break main >> and only place Qt works on - desktop platforms. > > Once and for all: > > * QWIDGETS ARE NOT BEING REMOVED > > * WE WANT QML TO WORK ON THE DESKTOP, with desktop use-cases > > * You don't get to tell people what they work on. That's the principle of > Open > Source. That leads to: > > * If you want something to happen, convince someone to do it by arguments or > do it yourself. > > The arguments don't seem to be convincing anyone. The people who have been > developing QWidget for 15 years are telling you it's at its limit. They don't > want to continue evolving it. > > This thread has gone on long enough. People's tempers are flared to the point > that some emails have no sense at all. We're rehashing the same arguments > over > and over again. > > I will not reply to any more emails on it and hopefully the thread will > eventually die. It's also going on KMail's auto-ignore feature. > > (btw, did anyone say Kontact Touch is a complex app mixing QML and C++?) > > -- > Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org > Software Architect - Intel Open Source Technology Center > PGP/GPG: 0x6EF45358; fingerprint: > E067 918B B660 DBD1 105C 966C 33F5 F005 6EF4 5358 > _______________________________________________ > Qt5-feedback mailing list > Qt5-feedback@qt.nokia.com > http://lists.qt.nokia.com/mailman/listinfo/qt5-feedback > > _______________________________________________ > Qt5-feedback mailing list > Qt5-feedback@qt.nokia.com > http://lists.qt.nokia.com/mailman/listinfo/qt5-feedback _______________________________________________ Qt5-feedback mailing list Qt5-feedback@qt.nokia.com http://lists.qt.nokia.com/mailman/listinfo/qt5-feedback
