2011/10/11 Иван Комиссаров <abba...@gmail.com> > Sorry, but i don't believe in open-source development. And stop telling me > to "do it yourself" - i won't. I'm not paid for that. I'd better change > framework and do my job without Qt, if i'll be sure that bugs in that > framework will be fixed properly. Qt is great framework, because it was > development by company, not opensource geeks (like GTK). Only thing i see - > Qt is dying, because of disappearing support for desktop, and no mobile > platforms with any future. > Take for example this bug - > https://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTBUG-3116 - 3 years old. In my > opinion, it can be fixed in an hour - one 'if' and one cocoa method call. > The problem is that i need to learn cocoa to determine how this toolbar > height is calculated. I will spent maybe days of work for 2-3 lines of code. > > I really can imagine how many code should be written to implement common > 'widgets' in qml with all functionality that already present in 2d widgets. > All i afraid is that we will receive small amount of qml components and we > will have to do everything by hand in qml with no ability to fallback to 2d > widgets (which have no support even now). > > About people who worked for 15 years - i've heard they are living nokia. > Dunno why. > > 11.10.2011, в 15:38, Alexis Menard написал(а): > > > On Oct 10, 2011, at 3:05 PM, Иван Комиссаров wrote: > > > I know that no one will remove QWidgets. > > > > But i need bug fixes. Bugs that i reported to Qt bug tracker about TWO > YEARS old, some of them with high priority. Even merge requests are waiting > for weeks to be reviewed. So please, stop developing that cool stuff for > developing 100line applications and fix what you have already done. > > Dude in some days there will be Qt Project. Get your reviewer or "whatever > name it has" rank and review stuff yourself, fix, and improve QWidget. > > Qt is just like any open source project now. Nokia doesn't want to work on > QWidget then that's just the way it is, if there is a community for QtWidget > then it will naturally step up. > > Don't complain about people that did the job during 15 years, are not > anymore paid by customer to do so but work on a company which has different > vision and think it's pointless to work on those. This is opensource, you > disagree, just leave and use GTK or whatever. You're just annoying with your > FUD, you pointless point of view about platforms and your erroneous > statements all over the thread. > > Life change, developement change, projects change that's the way it is. > Companies work and invest time on what they think it's important for them. > Qt is about to be as open as ever, you can take care of > Qt3Support/QWidget/QMovie or whatever if that make sense to you. > > > > > 10.10.2011, в 21:54, Thiago Macieira написал(а): > > > > On Monday, 10 de October de 2011 21:27:42 Иван Комиссаров wrote: > >> Qt is not used for mobile development as i see. In fact, i agree that > >> QWidgets are bad there. But main use-case for qt framework is desktop. > Lot > >> of arguments was about "limitations" of qwidgets and one of the example > was > >> mac style. First produce "next billion devices" (that would be sold), > than > >> let us your managers use nokia phones (Green still uses IPhone?), that > we > >> talk about mobile development. > >> > >> Not to be rude, i just don't share your optimism about mobile > development > >> with Qt. Development of new technologies is great, but do not break main > >> and only place Qt works on - desktop platforms. > > > > Once and for all: > > > > * QWIDGETS ARE NOT BEING REMOVED > > > > * WE WANT QML TO WORK ON THE DESKTOP, with desktop use-cases > > > > * You don't get to tell people what they work on. That's the principle of > Open > > Source. That leads to: > > > > * If you want something to happen, convince someone to do it by arguments > or > > do it yourself. > > > > The arguments don't seem to be convincing anyone. The people who have > been > > developing QWidget for 15 years are telling you it's at its limit. They > don't > > want to continue evolving it. > > > > This thread has gone on long enough. People's tempers are flared to the > point > > that some emails have no sense at all. We're rehashing the same arguments > over > > and over again. > > > > I will not reply to any more emails on it and hopefully the thread will > > eventually die. It's also going on KMail's auto-ignore feature. > > > > (btw, did anyone say Kontact Touch is a complex app mixing QML and C++?) > > > > -- > > Thiago Macieira - thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org > > Software Architect - Intel Open Source Technology Center > > PGP/GPG: 0x6EF45358; fingerprint: > > E067 918B B660 DBD1 105C 966C 33F5 F005 6EF4 5358 > > _______________________________________________ > > Qt5-feedback mailing list > > Qt5-feedback@qt.nokia.com > > http://lists.qt.nokia.com/mailman/listinfo/qt5-feedback > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Qt5-feedback mailing list > > Qt5-feedback@qt.nokia.com > > http://lists.qt.nokia.com/mailman/listinfo/qt5-feedback > > > _______________________________________________ > Qt5-feedback mailing list > Qt5-feedback@qt.nokia.com > http://lists.qt.nokia.com/mailman/listinfo/qt5-feedback >
Please QUIT responding in this "flame war". QWidgets stay, period. That is confirmed multiple times. Move on.
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