Hi Stacy,
 
I had to jump in here because I want to be sure we're talking about the same thing.  As a Quad in a chair I am able to connect to a woman in a sexual way and have an intimate relationship with her, but we both know that is all there is to it.  Connecting to a woman in an intimate relationship that means something more than a sexual way, takes a whole lot more work to make it work.  I'm sure the chair makes it harder, but working hard just makes it better. 
 
I understand you're talking more about starting a relationship and not being in one, but either way working hard will pay off in time.
 
With Love,

CtrlAltDel aka Dave
C4/5 Complete - 28 Years Post
Texas, USA

Stacy Harim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Well Houston,  I guess you are just different than some of us and women are drawn to you, however it's not that way with me and I am sure others here can tell you the same.  I have said it so many times, but I'll say it again.  I think I am fairly attractive.  I am very outgoing (just as much as before).  I do not let others see me sweat or worry about my disability.  I initiate conversations.  I smile at people and have a positive outlook.  I have everything to offer someone as long as it doesn't include material things.  I know this about myself, however it seems that men don't like girls in chairs because I used to get hit on all the time and I don't look any different aside from being in a chair.  I�m glad that you can still get women, but that's you and you are a rare case it seems after talking to others on the list.
 
Stacy
----- Original Message -----
From: Houston809
Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Frustration/sensitive

Stacy,
I�m not thinking that it�s really that difficult 2 find a person that�ll be there in a meaningful relationship. I have some problems but some of them it�s more me than them. So don�t think that I�m going against anything I�ve said. But I know that a big part of not having someone is my doing... It could also be others now sometimez we have 2 step back (ROLL BACK) and look at ourselves in the mirror. Would I want 2 be with me if the circumstances were reversed?
Houston

On 1/8/05 1:13 PM, "Stacy Harim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Your right in the aspect of everyday life.  Of course I know that.  The statement was related to relationships.  Para's are still seen as paralyzed.  In the aspect of getting looked at as a sexual being is just as hard for para's to face.  To the opposite sex paralyzed is paralyzed.
 
Stacy

----- Original Message -----
 
From: Greg <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
 
To: [email protected]
 
Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 12:20  PM
 
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L]  Frustration/sensitive
 

 
 
That statement shouldn't hurt anyone. It's true... Paras  have it easier than quads. Just like a C5 like me has it easier than a C4. The  more moement you have, the more you can do for yourself. If it's not a fact,  than show me someone who would volunteer to break their spine a few levels  higher.
 
Greg
 
 
 
"Stacy I wasn't implying that para's have it easier I was just saying if  I had a good "Grip" I could help myself!"


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