You can't use "freedom of speech" to justify hate speech. It was
completely uncalled for, as were most of his other rants.
At 07:37 AM 4/10/2007, Angie Novak wrote:
Freedom of speech, Dan T.
-Angie
Dan T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
John, you're getting offensive... Dan T.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think the excess eggs should be served at communion. Like the
caviar of Christ or something. Maybe add a caudacill from Mary
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Sent: Sun, 8 Apr 2007 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Six Stem Cell Facts
So what do you do with the thousands of excess fertilized eggs that
result from in vitro fertilization? Store them forever? Ban the
process? These excess eggs are thrown into the garbage everyday yet
I don't hear anyone complaining. So what's your answer.
Dan
At 07:50 PM 4/7/2007 -0700, Jim Lubin said something that elicited
my response:
Glad to see you partly agree with me Dan. (yes I realize you were
being sarcastic) I don't agree with the part about having elaborate
funerals and burying them, but yes we must not destroy unused
fertilized eggs created for IVF treatments.
Using unused embryos is not the same as organ donation because
organ donor are dead before organs are harvested. Removing stem
cells from an embryo kills the embryo.
I've listened to Dr Kerr from Johns Hopkins talk a few times about
his research. <http://www.hopkinsneuro.org/tm/>http://www.hopkinsneuro.org/tm/
watch his presentation at the 2006 symposium here
<http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2767307331641285489&hl=en>http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2767307331641285489&hl=en
he mentioned that they want to use the embryos created for IVF that
are deformed (something to that effect) and can not be used for
in-vitro treatment. Now I can go along with using those that could
not be used to result in a pregnancy.
I agree with S. 30: A bill to intensify research to derive human
pluripotent stem cell lines
At 06:35 PM 4/7/2007, Dan wrote:
Yes, yes, yes! We must not destroy all those useless fertilized
eggs. We should let them perish on their own and then we should
have an elaborate funeral and bury them in a tiny little plot of
earth. AND we must not allow abortion at ANY cost. Thank you
Jesus! Hallelujah!
Dan, who always gives great credence to anything authored by a reverend.
At 06:15 PM 4/7/2007 -0700, Jim Lubin said something that elicited
my response:
SIX STEM CELL FACTS
There are non-controversial alternatives worth exploring; such as
the reprogramming of ordinary somatic (body) cells, the
derivation of stem cells from amniotic fluid, and (assuming that
it can be shown that the product is not an embryo), altered nuclear transfer.
Concerns about embryo destruction are not only religious; but
merely a healthy respect for the human capacity for doing evil in
pursuit of the good.
The search for cures is not the only motive behind ESC research,;
many scientists are interested only in enhancing basic scientific
knowledge of such things as cell signaling, tissue growth and
early human development.
Source: Robert P. George and Thomas V. Berg, "Six Stem Cell
Facts," Wall Street Journal, March 14, 2007.
For text:
<http://online.wsj.com/article/SB117384191108736444.html>http://online.wsj.com/article/SB117384191108736444.html
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