Yes, they are different. If you don't have the correct one, unplug the AFM, reset the ecu and let it relearn without the AFM. My Mondeo runs quite happily without the AFM, it just uses the throttle position and engine speed to work out fuelling.
Jim From: Mark Miles Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 11:37 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Zetec conversion I haven't changed the AFM, the correct one I had has disappeared, I assume from your question that there is a difference between the two. Apart from the idle the car goes like a rocket..... scary quick. m Mark Miles Manager Bar Square 8 Market Place Wokingham Berkshire RG40 1AL 07522 67 60 57 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Jim Hearne <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, 27 June, 2011 9:15:23 Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Zetec conversion Did you let the ecu calibrate itself when you first started it ? You need to start it from cold, don't touch the throttle and let the engine warm up on idle until the fan cuts it. If you need to reset it then pull the ECU continuous feed fuse for 30 seconds and then refit, this will clear the ecu memory. Did you find the correct 1.8L 115ps AFM, i think the last one you had was from the 1.6 Jim From: Mark Miles Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 12:30 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Zetec conversion I finally have her back and running, sort of. It runs really well and is bloody quick but will not idle when warm. The engine hunts between 500 and 2000rpm before stalling. any ideas please guys? M Mark Miles Manager Bar Square 8 Market Place Wokingham Berkshire RG40 1AL 07522 67 60 57 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: bill green <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, 10 June, 2011 18:14:04 Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Zetec conversion I have a fuel filter swirl pot on my 1.8 zetec engined rickman, it has at least one extended banjo bolt to give it the provision of an extra port used as a return to the fuel tank. Bill > Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 10:15:48 +0100 > Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Zetec conversion > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > > re:swirl pots > On my diesel SEAT I have a fuel filter / swirl pot. As a service > item, it costs £13 and as far as I can tell has the required ins and > outs. Is there any reason this couldn't be used as a swirl pot for a > petrol injection setup? > > Tom > > On 8 June 2011 09:47, Jim Hearne <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Mark, > > I hope you have a fuel filter on the inlet to the HP fuel pump, especially > > if the tank is a bit rusty. > > > > Jim > > > > > > From: Mark Miles > > Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 9:27 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Zetec conversion > > I have an external swirl pot, the problem I have is finding somewhere to fit > > it. It is quite large, probably about 2 litres capacity and I have a very > > limited amount of space to fit it. So far on this conversion I have run into > > the following problems: > > Wrong ECU- the one that came with the engine was a PATS ecu with no key. - > > Additional cost £50+postage on Ebay > > Brake upgrade - ordered on ebay, still hasn't shown up despite only being 9 > > miles away. 10 days and counting. > > Fuel lines - Having fitted a pump near the fuel tank I find on powering it > > up that the original fuel lines were ok for suction on the old engine > > mounted fuel pump but with positive pressure they leaked just about > > everywhere. Extra cost (though probably a good investment) £25 for new fuel > > line. > > High pressure fuel pump. Once the fuel lines were sorted and we got fuel to > > the new pump we find that it leaks fuel from the housing. Still waiting to > > hear back from the vendor.. Ebay again. Replacement cost £40 for a used saab > > part. > > I have also found that the fuel tank is quite rusty and appears to be > > seeping fuel. I am thinking about fitting a racing fuel cell instead of > > replacing the fiesta tank. > > Coolant hoses. I found that my local motor factors were less than helpful > > with trying to find hoses to fit. In the end some kind soul wrecked an > > escort GTI so my local scrappy provided me with hoses that work. I don't > > know if they are a regular failure but 11 suitably engined cars in the yard > > had all had the bottom rad hose removed and two others were holed. > > Everything is now done except the brake upgrade, Hopefully she will roar > > tonight once the fuel pump is fitted. > > Mark > > > > Mark Miles > > Manager > > Bar Square > > 8 Market Place > > Wokingham > > Berkshire > > RG40 1AL > > 07522 67 60 57 > > > > ________________________________ > > From: hansdefauwes <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Tue, 7 June, 2011 23:46:34 > > Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Zetec conversion > > > > Over here a 1.4 injection tank only costs 84 euro excl. shipping. - 79 > > pounds > > In the Uk - ebay they are about 135 pounds incl shipping in the UK. > > > > I spoke with the owner. > > If we order several he was willing to give QSC owners a good price . . . > > We even could get them zink plated. > > > > I know that Rolf (saloon & 2+2), 1 for my 2+2 and an other Dutch 2+2 are > > interested. > > > > Could be interesting for UK QSC owners - I will visit Eddy late summer . . > > . > > > > Hans > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Matthew Wastell > > To: [email protected] > > Cc: [email protected] > > Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 9:15 PM > > Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Zetec conversion > > > > Demon tweaks sell external swirl pots. They were around £100 iirc. Money > > well spent compared to messing with a tank IMHO. > > > > > > > > M > > > > > > > > On 1 Jun 2011, at 09:10, "Jim Hearne" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I found my Zetec saloon exhaust a bit too noisy with just one large silencer > > at the rear of the system (though it is a stainless Magnex system), and > > acquired a 4-2-1 downpipe with a small silencer on it where the cat would be > > which will hopefully help. > > > > > > > > Was the old engine (a 1.4 CVH wasnt't it) fuel injected ? > > > > If not then there won't be a lift pump in the tank. > > > > If you try running the high pressure pump directly from the fuel tank you > > will suffer fuel starvation on corners and roundabouts when the fuel level > > gets below half a tank or so. > > > > > > > > You either need to change the tank for an injection one with an internal > > swirl pot or fit an external swirl pot with a low pressure feed pump and a > > high pressure fuel pump. > > > > If you feed the fuel return from the engine back into the swirl pot then it > > won't matter that the high pressure pump is a lot higher flow than the low > > pressure pump. > > > > There is a school of thought though that it's better to feed the engine > > return into the fuel tank to keep the fuel cooler as you aren't recycling > > the excess fuel between the engine and swirl pot. > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Mark Miles > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 9:26 PM > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Zetec conversion > > > > > > > > Hi Chris, the exhaust hasn't been done yet... the 4 - 2 - 1 that I have > > doesn't fit the engine. I have the stock manifold on there at the moment. I > > bought the downpipe with lambda but minus cat from a scrappy the other day. > > today I got the bits to make the rest of the exhaust. How much do you want > > for the pipe you have? The exhaust that is about to go on is going to be > > cobbled together from an escort downpipe, puma middle section and the back > > boxes from a puma sport... the polite word is hybrid!! > > > > > > > > I managed to get the coil pack, exhaust bits and road speed sensor for £40 > > so quite pleased with that. We now have a spark but currently have no fuel > > getting through. I suspect that the lift pump has been disconnected from > > power somewhere during the mod. Just trying to find where in the loom I need > > to reconnect the power for this. I have concerns about whether this is going > > to be man enough to supply the hp pump (from a 3.0 senator!) or whether to > > try to remove the lift pump altogether. 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